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Heard family - 10 Janeway Street Bermondsey London

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HLH

HLH Report 4 Apr 2012 07:22

does anyone have any connection with the Heard family who were living at 10 Janeway Street Bermondsey in 1941? All we know for definite was that Walter was the household head and Sidney George Heard was one of the sons. Sidney was living there at the time of his marriage to Constance Mary Quinlan in 1941.

thanks

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Apr 2012 07:38

Firstly welcome to the boards.

The chances of anyone connected to the family reading your post are probably very small. Try using the "Search trees" facility (See above) to try to find whether any other member of Genes Reunited has either of those Heard family members in their tree. If you do discover them in another members tree you can then send that other member a private message.

Good luck.

Gee

Gee Report 4 Apr 2012 07:42


Hi Welcome to the community boards


Hes here with a Constance M Heard and Agnes & Austin Quinlan


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Sidney G Heard <<<< 13 Oldfield Grove SE 16
Electoral Year: 1947
Parliamentary Division: Bermondsey
County or Borough: Southwark


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Sidney G Heard 13 Oldfield Grove SE16
Electoral Year: 1951
Parliamentary Division: Bermondsey
County or Borough: Southwark

With wife and her parents next door


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Sidney G Heard
Electoral Year: 1953
Parliamentary Division: Bermondsey
County or Borough: Southwark

Same details but only Austin next door


What is it you are trying to find out, we might be able to help

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Apr 2012 07:52

Constance's parents marriage...

Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)

Norman Ellen Agnes St Olave 1d 297
QUINLAN Austin St Olave 1d 297


Births Mar 1887 (>99%)
QUINLAN Austin Fylde 8e 681

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Apr 2012 07:53

Try this for starters:


Marriages Sep 1912
Heard Walter Williams St.Olave 1d 388
Williams Ada Heard St. Olave 1d 388

Name: Sidney G Heard
Mother's Maiden Surname: Williams
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Registration district: St Olave
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 215

Gee

Gee Report 4 Apr 2012 07:56

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Sidney George Heard
Name: Sidney George Heard
Birth Date: 15 Aug 1921
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1978
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume: 15
Page: 0200

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Apr 2012 08:04

1921 Electoral register:

Name: Walter Heard + Ada Heard
Electoral Year: 1921
Parliamentary Division: Bermondsey and Bethnal Green
County or Borough: Tower Hamlets
Street address: 3 Marigold St

1936 Electoral register:

Name: Walter Charles Heard + Ada Heard
Electoral Year: 1936
Parliamentary Division: Bermondsey
County or Borough: Southwark
Street address: 10 Janeway St

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Apr 2012 08:06

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Austin Quinlan
Name: Austin Quinlan (Stoker) .. Bachelor
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Ellen Agnes Norman.. Spinster
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Jan 1910
Parish: Rotherhithe All Saints
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Martin Quinlan (Stoker)
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Norman (Stevedor)
Register Type: Parish Register

Gee

Gee Report 4 Apr 2012 08:07

1911 England Census
about Walter Heard
Name: Walter Heard
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Civil parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Marigold Street, Bermondsey
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: CARMAN
Registration district: St Olave (Bermondsey)
Registration District Number: 24
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Piece: 1904
Household Members: Name Age
John Gibson 57
Ellen Gibson 57
Florence Eli Heard 25
Nellie Heard 23
Walter Heard 21
Albert Heard 19
Sidney Heard 17
Harriett Heard 13
Florie Heard 11
May Heard 7


Gee

Gee Report 4 Apr 2012 08:09

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Walter Heard <<Carman
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Spouse Name: Ada Williams
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Sep 1912
Parish: Bermondsey St James
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Eli Heard <<Waterside labourer
Spouse Father Name: John Williams <<Dock labourer
Register Type: Parish Register

Wit: Alfred Heard * ? Mills

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Apr 2012 08:10

Name: Walter Charles Heard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1888
Registration district: St
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 250

Name: Walter C Heard
Birth Date: abt 1889
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1960
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 110

1891:

Name: Walter C Hard
[Walter C Heard]
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Eli Hard
Mother's Name: Harriet Hard
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 378
Folio: 77
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Hard 29
Harriet Hard 30
Horace E Hard 7
Ellen L Hard 4
Walter C Hard 2
Florence A Hard 19 Months

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 4 Apr 2012 08:13

Name: Eli Heard
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1862
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 88

Name: Eli Heard
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Spouse Name: Harrie Wallbridge
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Oct 1882
Parish: Bermondsey St James
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Heard
Spouse Father Name: John Wallbridge
Register Type: Parish Register

1901:
Name: Harriett Heard
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Eli Heard
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 228
Piece: 392
Folio: 22
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Eli Heard 39
Harriett Heard 40
Horace Heard 18
Ellen Heard 14
Walter Heard 12
Alfred Heard 8
Sidney Heard 7
Harriett Heard 3
Mabel Heard 7 Months

Name: Harriet Wallbridge
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1861
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 7

Name: Harriett Heard
Birth Date: abt 1861
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1945
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 24

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Apr 2012 08:26

In case this is of interest to you...

1891 England Census
about Austin Quinlan
Name: Austin Quinlan
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah Agnes Quinlan
Gender: Male
Where born: Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Fleetwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Fleetwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3457
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Agnes Quinlan 31(Ireland) Married
Austin Quinlan 4
Sarah Quinlan 2
Martin Quinlan 1/12



1891 England Census
about Martin Quinlan
Name: Martin Quinlan
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Crew
Gender: Male
Where born: Lerwick, Ireland

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Off St Catherines Isle of Wight
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Godshill
ED, institution, or vessel: Thursby
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 896
Folio: 149
Household Members: Name Age
John Boujfield Mackereth 50
Edwin Rimmer 41
William Cunningham 29
William Moes 34
Henry Fortum Suddles 28
James Watson 25
Frances Andeyon 27
James Waterson 31
Charles Nye 31
William Ward 43
William Fesh 23
George Paidgon 36
Martin Quinlan 29>>>>>Fireman
Fred Wreyford 16


1901 England Census
about Astin Quinlan
Name: Astin Quinlan
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Martin Quinlan
Gender: Male
Where born: Fleetwood, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salfrod St Cyprian
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 170
Piece: 3738
Folio: 18
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Quinlan 39 (Ireland) Married..Steam Ship Fireman
Jane Quinlan 21
Sarah A Quinlan 13
Astin Quinlan 15
Martin Quinlan 9
Mary J Quinlan 6
Ellen F Quinlan 5

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 4 Apr 2012 09:33

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HEARD, Walter
Address: 13 Marigold Street Bermondsey

HEARD, Horace Eli Son Married M 25 1886 Ship Worker Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Nellie Daughter Married F 23 1888 Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Walter Son Single M 21 1890 Carmen Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Alfred Son Single M 19 1892 Dust Collector Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Sidney Son Single M 17 1894 Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Harriett Daughter Single F 13 1898 Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Florie Daughter Single F 11 1900 Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, May Daughter Single F 7 1904 Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Eli Head Married M 42 1869 Ship Worker Bermondsey VIEW
HEARD, Harriett Wife Married
28 years F 50 1861 Southampton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1904 Reference:
RG14PN1904 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED36 SN168

Registration District:
St Olave (Bermondsey) Sub District:
Bermondsey Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Bermondsey

Address:
13 Marigold Street Bermondsey County:
London

HLH

HLH Report 12 Apr 2012 19:27

Can anyone help with my query, please? We've got a Florence Violet Heard born in 1898 to Walter & Ada Heard. There's only one marriage of that name in 1918 to a Jack ADW Dinnis. But I cannot find any death record of Florence.

The only other info we have is that she was recorded as living with her parents in 1956 at Macks Road, SE London, but was not there in 1960. We're wondering if she'd divorced Jack and reverted back to her maiden name. Strange about no death record though.

Is there anywhere we can check for divorces?

Any help (again!) will be hugely appreciated.
:-)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 12 Apr 2012 21:21

I think that you may be getting your wires crossed somewhere. Walter and Ada did not marry until 1912.

Florence and Jack Dinnis were living at 208 Acre Lane, Brixton in 1956.

Name: Florence V Dinnis
Electoral Year: 1956
Parliamentary Division: Brixton
County or Borough: Lambeth

???
Name: Florence Dinnis
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1898
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1970
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5d
Page: 453

???
Name: Jack Dinnis
Birth Date: 1896
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1971
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Northumberland South
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 1019

??? Note what is shown as the brides fathers name
Name: Florence Violet Heard
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Spouse Name: Jack Albert Harold Walter Dennis
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Aug 1918
Parish: Brixton Hill St Saviour
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Arthur Heard
Spouse Father Name: George Dennis
Register Type: Parish Register

1901:
Name: Florence V Heard
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Arthur Heard
Mother's Name: Frances M A Heard
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapham, London, England
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour Brixton Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 341
Piece: 427
Folio: 80
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Heard 31
Frances M A Heard 28
Arthur G Heard 8
William T Heard 5
Florence V Heard 3

HLH

HLH Report 12 Apr 2012 22:55

Oh, crumbs! of course I knew Walter & ada married in 1912. It was Walter's father, Eli, I had got mixed up with. Eli &Harriet had a daughter Florrie in 1900 & I had assumed (wrongly) she was the Florence V who lived at Macks road in 1956.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 13 Apr 2012 07:34

As the hedgehog said as he climbed off the scrubbing brush, "We all make mistakes" ;-)

HLH

HLH Report 15 Apr 2012 19:22

If anyone has access to electoral rolls, is it possible to find out who was living at 10 Janeway Street Bermondsey between 1921 and 1936.

In 1936 Walter Charles Heard and his wife, Ada, were recorded as living there but I'm wondering what year they moved to that address.

Thanks again to all you 'helpers' - I am grateful for all the help you've given me.
:-D