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Daniel Higley Chance

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Dianne

Dianne Report 19 Apr 2012 02:09

Now I really have a good picture of Daniel. Thank you all so much.

Gee

Gee Report 8 Apr 2012 10:50

Looks like he married Sarah in the end!


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Daniel C Higley
Spouse Surname: Sarah E Williams
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 759


Sarahs first husband and maiden name


Marriages Jun 1874
----------------------------------------------------
Hill Sarah Elizabeth Gainsbro' 7a 1603
Williams Edward George Gainsbro' 7a 1603


And her death

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Sarah E Higley
Birth Date: abt 1857
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 538

Might be worth sending for the birth of Daniel and the marriage to Sarah.

Dianne

Dianne Report 8 Apr 2012 05:37

Thank you all so much for all your hard work! I am now beginning to see who Daniel was.

Mary

Mary Report 7 Apr 2012 19:09

Same Daniel Higley who married Elizabeth Chance nee Taylor ??born 1828 Worc in 1846 sentenced 12 months for stealing

1864 12 months for fraud.
The same guy ??

London Gazzette 29/6/1866 for bankruptcy,says he was a butcher and contractor.

Thanks Gins.

Maryb.

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 18:57

Nice one Mary :-D

Mary

Mary Report 7 Apr 2012 18:45

1891 Staveley derbyshire D6 >23 a Lodger
Daniel Highley(Higley on original) born @ 1855 Worc plater /excavator.single!!
From railway records Daniel Higley born 24/6/1857 a Shunter entered service 27/10/1879 resigned 9/8/1884 to take up new post.

1901 Nottingham D28 > 14 a Lodger
Daniel Higley single born Walsall staffs 1858.

1911 25,Island street Notts
Daniel Higley single born Stoke Worc labourer
Sarah Ellen williams widow housekeeper.

Death Daniel Higley born @ 1859 died march 1933 Notts.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 7 Apr 2012 18:11

Susannah Chance born @ 1833 died Walsall Staffs 1904
1901 Walsall staffs D8 > 10
Hannah Chance born Bromsgrove 1833 (same as Daniel's wife??) a visitor married occupation charwoman.
Haven't found her in 1891 as yet.
If there was a age gap of 25 years then maybe they had split up.

Maryb.

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 17:34

He's here in 1881 with his wife


1881 England Census
about Daniel Chance
Name: Daniel Chance
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Chance
Gender: Male
Where born: Stok Heath, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Walsall Foreign
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 13 John St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Railway Shunter

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2826
Folio: 16
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Chance 23
Susannah Chance 46



England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Daniel Higley
Name: Daniel Higley
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Date of Trial: 17 Oct 1846
Trial Year: 1846
Location of Trial: Worcestershire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment <<<12 months for stealing

Dianne

Dianne Report 7 Apr 2012 16:48

I have the 1871 census from Ancestry.com when Daniel was aged twelve. At this point he is registered on the census as the son of William Harbach and Eliza. Eliza was indeed seventeen when he was born and his birthplace is recorded as Dodderhill, Worcestershire. After that he seems to have disappeared.

Thanks a lot for your help.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Apr 2012 06:42

This could be Elizabeth Chance in 1841, before Eliza's birth


1841 Census

Name: Elizabeth Chance
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Ombersley
Hundred: Oswaldslow (Lower Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub-registration district: Ombersley

William Wilson 20 Farmer
Elizabeth Chance 20 Female Servant
William Creen 20 Male Servant



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Apr 2012 06:36

Gins ...................


it seems that the Chance children kept their surname, but Eliza maybe wanted to acknowledge Higley ...............


.......... or it could be possible child abuse.


There could possibly be a notation on the Parish Register if one could only find it and view it!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Apr 2012 06:33

well, I think this proves it


1861 Census

Name: Elizabeth Higley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Daniel Higley
Gender: Female
Where born: Ombersley, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Stoke Prior
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub-registration district: Bromsgrove

Daniel Higley 32
Elizabeth Higley 38
George Chance 15
>>>>>>>>>>> Dane Kiyby Chance 2 Grandson <<<< it is Dan'l Higley Chance on the image.


I have changed the name on the ancestry entry



The Higley is purely and simply her stepfather's surname, not an indication of Daniel's father at all.



Unless you want to believe that he was born the result of child abuse.



sylvia

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 06:31

Hmmm......looks like Daniel Highley sr might have been young Eliza' stepfather.

You do need the birth certificate for young Daniel. I do hope that he was not the child of little Eliza and her stepfather?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Apr 2012 06:26

??????


"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Eliza Chance (1842)

Name: Eliza Chance
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Apr 1842
Baptism/Christening Place: OMBERSLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chance
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04028-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 465272, 465273
Reference Number:





sylvia

Dianne

Dianne Report 7 Apr 2012 06:26

I have Eliza's birth as 1841, so I think that could well be her. She married William Harbach in Dodderhill, Droitwich. I therefore suppose her mother's maiden name was Chance and that's why Eliza had it as her middle name.

I don't have his birth certificate. I might have to send away for it.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 7 Apr 2012 06:24

Daniel's baptism from www.familysearch.org/


"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Daniel Higley Chance (1858)

Name: Daniel Higley Chance
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 15 Aug 1858
Baptism/Christening Place: Dodderhill, Worcester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Eliza Chance
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04361-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 367828
Reference Number: p131,1045



sylvia

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 06:21

Marriages Dec 1849
----------------------------------------------------
Chance Elizabeth Worcester 18 754
Higley Daniel Worcester 18 754


Or is this the lady who say is yound Daniels mother?

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 06:13

Is this who you say is his mother?


1851 England Census
Name: Eliza Chance
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel Higley
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Higley
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Droitwich, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Ombersley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Droitwich
Sub-registration district: Claines
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Piece: 2046
Folio: 264
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Higley 23
Elizabeth Higley 28
Eliza Chance 9 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
George Chance 5


She would havebeen too young to have son Daniel in 1858. Her father is listed here with the name 'Highley' giving some indication to young Daniels birth name

I guess she could have had Daniel age 17?

Gee

Gee Report 7 Apr 2012 06:07

Do you have the birth certifiate for Daniel? The only hope of finding his natural father is if Eliza named him on the birth certificate


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Daniel Higley Chance
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1858
Registration district: Droitwich
Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 358

Dianne

Dianne Report 7 Apr 2012 05:55

Daniel Higley Chance was born in Dodderhill, Droitwich, Worcestershire circa 1859. His mother, Eliza, married William Harbach. Their first child was Charlotte born in 1860 also in Dodderhill. Daniel appears to have been with the family in his early years and even took the name Harbach then.

Could this be Daniel's father?

Possible father ???
CENSUS 1881
Daniel Higley Age: 52 Birth Year: 1829 Birthplace: Chaddesley, Worcestershire
Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Condition: Married Profession/Occupation: Labourer
Address: Stoke Heath, Worcestershire


I think this may well be 'our' Daniel but again I'm unsure.

Daniel Higley Chance Groom Birth Date: 1858 Groom's Age: 21
Bride's Name: Susannah Taylor Harris Bride's Birth Date: 1834 Bride's Age: 45 Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1879 Marriage Place: Walsall, St. John, Stafford
Groom's Father's Name Daniel Higley Chance Bride's Father's Name: John Taylor

I'm afraid that's all I can find out about him and I'd love to know more.

Thank you all for any help you can give me.