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Could anyone tell me if their is a site for the 1871 Irish census, a free one would be great

Most Irish census records pre 1901 were unfortunately destroyed.

Full government censuses were taken of the whole island in 1821, 1831, 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 1901, and 1911. The first four, for 1821, 1831, 1841, and 1851, were largely destroyed in 1922, in the fire at the Public Record Office; surviving fragments are detailed under the county source-lists. Those for 1861 1871 1881 and 1891 were completely destroyed earlier, by order of the government.

Thank you worth a try

What about marriage /birth records

I have a family living in Scotland 1881 but the parents were born & married in Ireland and most of their children were born there But I don't know which part ???

Irish BMD certificates are available see:

http://www.groireland.ie/about_us.htm

Without knowing the probable location of events however it could be a long and possibly expensive search.

I personally have found that particularly in the 1911 census some people of Irish descent included more precise details of where they were born. This I have assumed to be because the 1911 UK census was the first census that the head of household completed rather than an enumerator. It might be worth checking if those on the 1881 census were still around in 1911.

Thank you I'll look into that I've got the one for the son born in Scotland but he's married

Do you want to give us some names and we may be able to help please?

When was the son born in Scotland? If he was born after 1855 then his birth registration will give the date and place of his parents marriage.

Hi

I haven't got his birth just his Marriage in 1904

Robert McMeechan married Cecilia Ainslie a widow (McAlpine was her maiden name my ancestor)
On the Marriage certificate it has his parents as Hugh McMeechan a coal miner deceased and moother Eliza Baird I've looked for a birth with these names on but nothing with both names on he was born in Ayr
Found him in 1881/91 living with his grandfather Hugh McMeechan born Ireland 1837.
so I'm thinking Hugh had a son Hugh born Ireland who in turn had Robert born Ayr but can't prove it??/ Can't even find a death certificate for Hugh Junior in Scotland

This family please?

Name: Robert McMeechan
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Hugh McMeechan
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 587
Registration district: Dalry
Civil parish: Dalry
Town: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Address: New Street
Occupation: Woollen Factory Worker
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 60
Line: 8
Roll: cssct1881_183
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McMeechan 44
Elizabeth McMeechan 23
Ann McMeechan 22
Robert McMeechan 14
Jeanie McMeechan 17
Adam McMeechan 9
Robt Tweed McMeechan 1 Grandson, b. Dalry
Eliz Hairshaw McMeechan 7 Mo Granddaughter, b. Dalry

1901

Name: Hugh Mcmechan
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 587
Registration district: Dalry
Civil parish: Dalry
Town: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Address: 79
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 36
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_222
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Mcmechan 65
Elizabeth Mcmechan 36
Adam Mcmechan 27
Ellen Mcmechan 25 Daughter, b. Dalry
Jane Cumnock 16 Granddaughter, b. Saltcoats
Susan Cumnock 13 Granddaughter, b. Saltcoats
Hugh Cumnock 8 Grandson b. Saltcoats
Jane Skeoch 8 Granddaughter, b. Dalry

Wondering if Ellen may actually be a daughter-in-law?

Was it Robert b. 1867 or Robert Tweed b. 1881 who married in 1904 please?

1891 - so Ellen is his daughter?

Name: Hugh McMechan
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 587
Registration district: Dalry
Civil parish: Dalry
Town: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Address: New St
Occupation: Woollen Mill Worker
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 71
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_202
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh McMechan 59
Robt McMechan 10 Grandson, b. Dalry
Adam McMechan 16 Son, b. Ireland
Eliza McMechan 26 Daughter, b. Ireland
Ellen McMechan 14 Daughter, b. Dalry
Mary McLain 48 Visitor, b. Broughtferry, Forfarshire
Margt Caunnock 70 Visitor, b. Ireland



????

1905 MCMECHAN HUGH M 66 DALRY (AYR) /AYR 587/00 0023

Yes That is the Family Robert being the grandson of Hugh

I see what you mean but she would only be 14 if she was Roberts mother

I did find a birth for Robert M........... 1879 Ayr as it's the only one it should be the right one

But she is down as Daughter in 1891 and in 1881 she is living with Grandparents Adam Cammock 62

their seem to be so many names linked to this family??

There's a birth for a Robert Tweed McMichan 1879 Dalry Ayr on Scotland people

1881

Name: Ellen McMechan
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Dalry, Ayrshire
Registration number: 587
Registration district: Dalry
Civil parish: Dalry
Town: Dalry
County: Ayrshire
Address: New Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 7
Roll: cssct1881_183
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Cammock 62
Margaret Cammock 60
William Cammock 38
Francis Cammock 24
Margaret Cammock 25
James A McMechan 19 Grandson, b. Ireland
Ellen McMechan 5

Sorry I'm getting confused now

Yes Robert Tweed McMeechan married 1904

Robert Tweed McMeechan's father was Hugh McMeechan ??

1879 MCMICHAN ROBERT TWEED M DALRY (AYR) /AYR 587/00 0205

1892 CUMMOCK HUGH M STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0004 f. James Cummock, mother Susan m.s Shedden, marr October 1881 Dalry....... so not sure how he can be Hugh's grandson?

Yes That seems to be the birth I thought haven't gone into it

And the death 1905 possibly is possibly the grandfather

I think I'm going to have to get more certificates to go any further with this

It get quite costly with Scotlandspeople

Thank you for helping

Not sure I'm following this now

on Robert's marriage in1904 it had father Hugh a coal miner mother Eliza Baird

Just looked at his birth on SP. Robert Tweed was the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Mcmichen, Domestic servant. So he was the GRANDSON of Hugh b. 1837 Ireland. As he has TWeed as a middle name it may be that his father's surname was Tweed but there is no father named on the birth certificate. His grandfather Hugh was probably the only "father" that he knew and rather than show that he was illegitimate named him as his father on his marriage certificate. The Elizabeth Baird on his marriage certificate may actually be his mother who had married a Mr. Baird after Robert's birth.

Thank you For that I did wonder that at the beginning I even thought Hugh was married to Elizabeth ?? big age difference but in those days

Problem Solved I've been in touch with some who seems to have the 1905 death of Hugh so I'll wait and see if he gats back to me before I go into the death as this is sideways in my tree

Thank you