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Hi Albert, thanks so much for coming back and letting us know. It's nice to tie the loose ends up!

Hi
To every one who helped thanks, i have just received marriage certificate of Ellen L Smith which verifies her fathers name as Ernest smith and living at 53 Guilford street at time of marriage, so Ernest and Amelia Smith Living at 53 Guilford street are her parents,again thanks to all

AL

Don't be daft Albert! They put these buttons on things but nothing explains what happens!

Hi Again
found it thanks, I feel like an idiot

AL

Go to the top of the thread and there should be a pink button that says "mark this thread as unanswered" (or something similar - click that)

Hi Again MarieCeleste
How do I take the tick OFF lesley's report?
thanks

AL

Hi MarieCeleste
Ok thanks, didn't know what that ment and I am going to send for for it next week with others I need.
Many thanks

AL

Hello Albert - it might be a good idea to remove the "marked as answered" tick from Lesley's reply. Otherwise, people will think you don't need any further help and won't bother looking at the thread.

The only way you'e going to be sure of Ellen Louise Smith's parentage is to order a copy of their marriage certificate from GRO and see what it gives for her father's details:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Frederick W Etherington
Spouse: Ellen L Smith
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1934
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 1000

Hi Gwyn
It looks like it might be Ernest Smith and Amelia Lawrence as parents? but I just relised I had a first name for ellen's mother LILY? I can not find out where I got this from,so did a search on them and found that they where married in the Sept Qtr in Chorlton 8c 1963? on my tree I had father as Smith only and Mother as Lily only? if it is her then her maiden name is" Milne" so now I do not know which one,

AL

Hi Lesley
Thanks, the Ellen L Smith born in Birkenhead 1912 has to be the one, as the family is definately from the the Wallasey/Liverpool area, again many thanks

AL

Hi
These are the only Ellen L Smth's showing on Find My Past 1912/1914

SMITH Ellen L England Oxfordshire, Oxford 1912 VIEW
SMITH Ellen L England Cheshire, Birkenhead 1912 VIEW
SMITH Ellen L England Wiltshire, Malmesbury 1913 VIEW
SMITH Ellen L England London, Lambeth 1913 VIEW
SMITH Ellen L England Somerset, Bath 1913 VIEW
SMITH Ellen R L England London, Poplar 1913 VIEW
SMITH Ellen F L England Warwickshire, Aston 1914

Lesley

Hi Lesley
I found the birth for Ellen Louisa on Cheshire BMD, under births for 1912-14, Sub District Wallasey Reg; at Wirral with this Ref; wal/114/48, but it did not have mothers Name?, and in same files found POSSIBLE mothers of Jones, Lawrence and Harvey, I also found in Family search an Ernest Maston Smith married to a Amelia Hart, on the 19 June 1901 at St Michael in the hamlet Liverpool England?
so which one??
thanks

AQL

Albert this may not be your Ellen as ref are different.

Where did you find your info please

Civil registration event: Birth
View the original image

Name: SMITH, Ellen L

Registration district: [?] Birkenhead

County: Cheshire

Year of registration: 1912

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Mother's maiden name: Lawrence

Volume no:[?] 8A

Page no:[?]1012

Hi Patchem
at the moment I do not have marriage certificate, I will be sending for it probably next week
thanks

AL

Hi Gwyn
Yes thats her death record, she is buried at rake lane cemetry wallasey
thanks

AL

Maybe....??????

Marriages Jun 1911
Lawrence Amelia .. Liverpool 8b 37
Smith Ernest .. Liverpool 8b 37



Births Sep 1912
Smith Ellen L ...Lawrence... Birkenhead 8a 1012

As these parents names were 2 of the possibles at addresses in the street, these MIGHT be the records.

Gwyn

Is this your aunt's death record?
If so we can perhaps find her birth registration.

Name: Ellen Louise Etherington
Birth Date: 16 May 1912
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Wallasey
Inferred County: Merseyside
Volume: 37
Page: 1087


Gwyn

Her Father's name will be on the marriage certificate.........

Hi, I need some help from you again.I am trying to find the parents of my aunt Ellen Louisa Smith know as QUEENNIE,she married my Uncle Frederick Etherington in 1934 (1st Qtr ?) civil marriage reg in Birkenhead, I have found out that they both lived on Guilford st Egremont Wallasey, he at #58 but not sure what # she lived at, as there is a few Smith family's living on the street, at #53 Ernest and Amelia (nee Hart?) Smith from 1928 till 1939, a Joseph Smith at #52 only shows up in 1933 and a Maria Smith who only shows up in 1929 at # 51, now when Frederick and Ellen Louise Married they moved into # 51,so any one of these MIGHT be her parents? on the Cheshire BMD I found an Ellen Louisa Smith born in the 1912-14 list, Sub distr; Wallasey, Reg at Wirral ref wal/114/48 but no mothers maiden Name? and more info on this not available on line, so can you help find out her parents please, thank you
regards
AL Etherington------------Canada