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21 Apr 2012 14:56 |
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Henry Quick, son of joseph Quick & Charlotte Branning, was born in about 1836.
I believe I have found him on the 1871 Census, but there is a problem - possibly an unhappy coincidence is involved - and I would appreciate your thoughts on which Census record relates to my Henry Quick.
In one ref he is shown as a widower with 2 young sons, John & Henry. I have traced baptisms for a John & Henry - same day March 20 1861. Mother's name given as Mary Ann Quick.
There is another 1971 Census entry that shows Henry Quick, his wife Mary ann , John & Henry plus many more children.
The area involved seemmore or less the same.
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21 Apr 2012 15:10 |
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can you give us the location please
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21 Apr 2012 15:13 |
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Charlotte Branning England, Marriages, 1538–1973 marriage: 28 Nov 1821 Saint George The Martyr,?Southwark,?Surrey,?England spouse: Joseph Quick
groom's name: Joseph Quick bride's name: Charlotte Branning marriage date: 28 Nov 1821 marriage place: Saint George The Martyr,Southwark,Surrey,England indexing project (batch) number: M02244-4 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 307692
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21 Apr 2012 15:15 |
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Is there another thread open on this ??
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21 Apr 2012 15:15 |
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William Shakespear Quick England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 02 May 1831 christening: 10 Jun 1832 SAINT MARY,?NEWINGTON,?SURREY,?ENGLAND parents: Joseph Quick,? Charlotte
name: William Shakespear Quick gender: Male baptism/christening date: 10 Jun 1832 baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,NEWINGTON,SURREY,ENGLAND birth date: 02 May 1831 father's name: Joseph Quick mother's name: Charlotte indexing project (batch) number: C05563-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 307700, 307701, 307702, 307703 James Joseph Quick England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 05 Oct 1825 christening: 05 Aug 1827 SAINT MARY,?NEWINGTON,?SURREY,?ENGLAND parents: Joseph Quick,? Charlotte
name: James Joseph Quick gender: Male baptism/christening date: 05 Aug 1827 baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,NEWINGTON,SURREY,ENGLAND birth date: 05 Oct 1825 father's name: Joseph Quick mother's name: Charlotte indexing project (batch) number: C05563-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 307700, 307701, 307702, 307703 Charlotte Quick England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 21 Sep 1822 christening: 13 Oct 1822 SAINT MARY,?NEWINGTON,?SURREY,?ENGLAND parents: Joseph Quick,? Charlotte
name: Charlotte Quick gender: Female baptism/christening date: 13 Oct 1822 baptism/christening place: SAINT MARY,NEWINGTON,SURREY,ENGLAND birth date: 21 Sep 1822 father's name: Joseph Quick mother's name: Charlotte indexing project (batch) number: C05563-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 307696, 307697, 307698, 307699
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21 Apr 2012 15:17 |
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Henry Quick England and Wales Census, 1841 birth: 1836 Surrey census: 1841 St Mary,? Lambeth,? Surrey,? England name: Henry Quick event: Census event date: 1841 gender: Male age: 5 birthplace: Surrey record type: Household registration district: Lambeth sub-district: Lambeth Church 2nd civil parish: St Mary county: Surrey
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AnnCardiff
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21 Apr 2012 15:19 |
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this is the same church as the other three - do you have the correct dob?
Henry Quick England and Wales Census, 1841 birth: 1840 Surrey census: 1841 St Mary Newington,? Lambeth,? Surrey,? England name: Henry Quick event: Census event date: 1841 gender: Male age: 1 birthplace: Surrey record type: Household registration district: St Mary Newington sub-district: Trinity civil parish: St Mary Newington county: Surrey
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21 Apr 2012 15:19 |
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Have you posted about this family elsewhere?
1871 England Census Henry Quick Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 267 Piece: 618 Folio: 25 Page Number: 44 Henry Quick 35 widower sawyer John Quick 12 Henry Quick 10 Elizabeth Perry 32 Thomas Perry 6 George F Perry 4 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 618; Folio: 25; Page: 44; GSU roll: 818918.
Cannot see a Henry with wife Mary Ann in 1871
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patchem
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21 Apr 2012 15:20 |
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There is another posting about this, AnnCardiff, please do not spend time looking for early family you are just duplicating information.
http://www.genesreunited.co.nz/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1297732
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LesleyC
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21 Apr 2012 15:21 |
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I would say its the Widower
1871 England Census about Henry Quick Name: Henry Quick Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 267 Piece: 618 Folio: 25 Page Number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Henry Quick 35 John Quick 12 Henry Quick 10
Reason being if you look in the 1841 census he is with his mother and father in Lambeth Surrey!!!
1841 England Census about Henry Emick Name: Henry Emick [Henry Quick] Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Surrey, England Civil parish: St Mary Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division) County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church Second Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1058 Book: 8 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Emick 40 Charlotte Emick 30 Joseph Emick 14 William Emick 10 Henry Emick 5 Edward Emick 3
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21 Apr 2012 15:21 |
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This is the Related thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1297732
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21 Apr 2012 16:16 |
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Dea
I am the author of both threads.
I think that Charlotte Branning can probably be closed.
This thread relates to one of her sons.
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21 Apr 2012 16:21 |
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not happy with this - I have repeated research for you - this is what happens when you make two postings about the same family and that is why members are strongly advised by GR and fellow members not to post more than once on the same family
thanks for wasting my time
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21 Apr 2012 16:59 |
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AnnCardiff
I am very sorry if I have wasted your time.
I did reference it to Charlotte Branning and assumed that people would make the connection.
I appreciate your postings as you have added some further children to the Joseph Quick/Charlotte Branning marriage.
Will try hard not to waste people's time as I really do appreciate the efforts made to answer mty questions. :-(
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AnnCardiff
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21 Apr 2012 17:02 |
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apology accepted
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Dea
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21 Apr 2012 18:35 |
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Hi Old,
I posted the link to your other thread because, as you can see, when we are trying to help, we first work backwards and forwards through the census, checking out other family members, births and marriages etc. so that we can get the 'feel' of the family and hopefully find the correct info for you.
So - in this case, the work done on the other thread was done all over again.
This is why we say to just keep to the one thread when looking at the same family or family members as that way all the info is kept together and can be used for reference without having to search for it all again.
No probs though - we all have to learn but please bear this in mind for the future.
Best of luck with your search.
Dea Xxx
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Cynthia
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21 Apr 2012 20:01 |
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I speak to Old (Arthur) on another thread and know he wouldn't deliberately want to cause problems.
I think this is just a case of a simple misunderstanding.
It took me ages to get used to how these boards work and I hated being criticised for my lack of expertise.
Hopefully, all's well that ends well........Cx
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21 Apr 2012 21:54 |
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It seems to be Cynthia,
That's why I was trying to explain above the reason why the info should be kept together and the reasoning behind the 'one thread' request.
It does take a while to find your way around things on here and, as I said, we all have to learn.
I did all sorts of things 'wrong' when I first came on ;-) :-D :-D
Dea Xxx
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21 Apr 2012 23:21 |
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Hi Old
just to explain the rounding down of ages ................
it is only seen on the 1841 Census, not on any later ones.
Enumerators were supposed to round down to the nearest 5 the ages of anyone over the age of 15.
so, someone shown as age 20 would actually be anywhere between 20 and 24, and so on.
Unfortunately (for us!!) ................ not all enumerators did do that! So you may see people with their (reasonably accurate) age shown.
A good guide on the 1841 is ........ if the age ends in 0 or 5, it has most probably been rounded down, and is two or more siblings over 15 are shown with the same age , then the ages have probably been rounded down.
On all other censuses, ages may vary by up to 2 years but this is purely and simply dependent on the date when the census was taken vs a person's birth date .......
............... and also whether someone actually knows their age or the age of their spouse or children!
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