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You're right Reggie. Got my 'befores' and 'afters' mixed up. :-D

Yes this is the info I have. The other thread says a lot but was asking about Stephen Cecil Hopkins for who I have no info and have not found any info on him. Not worry. Thank you for looking. With kind regads Donna.
Yes Reggie it could say that. I have not repeated my search from other thread. I am asking about someone different. I am trying to trace back from Stephen Cecil Hopkins. Not forward. At the same time looking for Dorothy. So that is why I mentioned them. Thank you for your time.
:-)

Could this be relevant - Stephen Benjamin Hopkins, born 10 June 1912 in Toronto, York, Canada. Father John M Hopkins Mother Florence Louisa Goodwin.

Hope so.

I think it may be Royal Field Artillery...............does that look more like it?

Janet

Must disagree with your statement that Dorothy 'couldn't be younger, or would have been born in England'. The family went to Canada in 1911 and returned to UK in 1920

Won't search any further, in view of the other threads

This seems to be the family returning to England:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Stephen Hopkins Name: Stephen Hopkins
Birth Date: abt 1914
Age: 6
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Melita
Search Ship Database: View the 'Melita' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136367

They are:
John, 44
Flora, 35
Stephen, 6
Dorothy, 4

So Stephen was born 1914 and Dorothy 1916.

all this information on other thread ! (posted on 22nd April)



travelling back from Canada with father, mother and sister Dorothy (who is 2 years younger and obviously born in Canada)

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Stephen Hopkins
Birth Date: abt 1914
Age: 6
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 5 Sep 1920
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Melita
Search Ship Database: View the 'Melita' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 136367


Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 673; Item: 74.


John aged 44, Flora aged 35, Stephen aged 6 and Dorothy aged 4

they are travelling to 15 Elm Road, Dartford

1911 yes home of Benjamin

23 GOODWIN, Benjamine Head Married
28 years M 54 1857 Police Pensioner Meopham Kent VIEW
23 GOODWIN, Mary Louisa Wife Married
28 years F 51 1860 London Dorset VIEW
23 GOODWIN, Benjamin Fred Son Single M 24 1887 Sement Labourer Kensington London VIEW
23 GOODWIN, Samuel Albert Son Single M 22 1889 Grocers Assistant Kensington London VIEW
23 GOODWIN, Thomas John Son Single M 15 1896 Nil Stone Greenhithe Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3780 Reference:
RG14PN3780 RG78PN143 RD43 SD3 ED18 SN23

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Dartford Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Stone Near Dartford

Address:
15 Elm Road Stone Greenhithe

From what I have read (correct me if I'm wrong) John (great grandfather) and his new wife left for Canada in 1911, had 2 children there (grandfather and his sister) Grandfather born 1912 but his sister couldn't have been 2 years younger or she would have been born in England. What about trying Dartford records as people who emigrate and don't settle usually come back pretty close to where they left. Try familysearch for their births.

We've researched Stephen Benjamin before:

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1016553

Witnesses are Benjamin Goodwin his wifes father and George Thomas Hopkins, no idea who he is. They married at St Mary's Church, Stone, Kent. Address is 15 Elm Road. That is all the address says. No not found John on the census.
Thank you.

What is the address for John on the marriage cert ?

Witnessess might be useful if family members

Have you found John on the 1911 census?

Sorry my pc is on a go slow, John was a labourer and he married 2nd May 1911 Dartford. On the 13th May 1911 they boarded a ship and went to Ontario. John is my husbands great grandfather. His grandfather was born in Ontario and so was his grandfathers sister. We have them coming back to the UK in 1920. I can not find anything about them. His grandfather was called Stephen Benjamin Hopkins 10th June 1912 and his sister was called Dorothy Hopkins possibly 2 years younger than him. I have been trying for years to find her.
Thank you.

What is the occupation of John on the marriage cert ?

Hi. Do you know where Stephen Hopkins was born? Did you try any of the census records from this site if he was born in England or Wales, Scotlands People if born in Scotland and census.nationalarchives.ie if born in Ireland. If his son was married in 1911, assume he was born shortly after marriage and 20 years after his father was born. It's a good estimated place to start.

it's the Dartford marriage -

additional information found on this posting -


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1297877

Which is the correct marriage ?

Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Hopkins John W Stockport 8a 130

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Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Hopkins John W Dartford 2a 1224

where did the son marry?

Where would I look to try and find out about him through his records? It says he was a Sargent Royal Force Artilary. Well I think that it what it says. That is what it says on his sons wedding certificate in 1911. Have not been able to find anything on him at all. His son John William Hopkins was born abt 1879 but not sure where. They have connections to Canada. Could this be through him being in forces.
Any help would be great.