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Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 19:49

Hello GR folks!
I have sadly been unsuccessful at finding the marriage information of the Clements family in Wisbech Cambsridgeshire and wondered if you might be able to help, please?
I have John Clements born c1773 Emneth Norfolk who married an unknown Alice b. c1771 Walsoken Cambs and their son John Clements 1802 - 1890 Emneth who married a Martha Unknown b. c1806 St Germans, Norfolk.
I would love to know who they married and when, if this is possible . . .
Many thanks
Melanie

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 19:56


Name:John Clements

Gender:Male

Baptism/Christening Date:24 Apr 1803

Baptism/Christening Place:Parish Church of Wisbeach-St. Peter, Wisbeach, Cambridge, England

Father's Name:John Clements

Mother's Name:Alice

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:C04456-2
System Origin:England-EASy
Source Film Number:1040587
...............................................................................


Groom's Name:John Clements
Groom's Birth Date:1802
Groom's Age:20

Bride's Name:Martha Mason
Bride's Birth Date:1804
Bride's Age:18

Marriage Date:24 Sep 1822

Marriage Place:Norwich, Norfolk, England

Groom's Father's Name:John Clements
Groom's Mother's Name:Alice Clements

Bride's Father's Name:John Mason

Bride's Mother's Name:Mary Mason

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:I07376-2
System Origin:England-EASy
Source Film Number:1595887
Reference Number:1822

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 1 May 2012 19:56

Working backwards... Have you found John and Martha in census?

Did they have children after 1837?... If so, a birth certificate would give the mother's maiden name.

Gwyn

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:02

Hi Catherine,
I have the baptisms of the Clements family but thank you for corroborating this.

Hi Gwyn in Kent - Yes I do have John Clements and Martha unknown on census returns from 1841 to 1861 . 1841 -1851 - Elm Road, Wisbech St Peter and 1861 West side of canal, Wisbech St Peter.

Thanks

Melanie

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 1 May 2012 20:02

1841 census for Wisbech:

CLEMENTS John 40 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS Martha 35 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS John 15 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS Thos 11 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS James 9 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS Harriett 7 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS Martha 2 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A
CLEMENTS Robt 1 Wisbech St Peter HO107/79/12 7A

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:04

Hi Beverley!
Yes, I do have all of the censuses regarding this family and would love to know when and where the two ladies mentioned were born to.
Thanks for your help
Melanie

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:07

Possible siblings????


Sarah Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:19 Aug 1796 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Anne Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:17 Oct 1798 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Anne Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:17 Oct 1798 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Susannah Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:26 Jun 1801 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

John Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:24 Apr 1803 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Mark Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:11 Aug 1805 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St. Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Susanna Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:28 Nov 1813 St. Peter's,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

William Clements England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:09 Jul 1816 St. Peter's,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Susanna Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:28 Nov 1813 St Peter's,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

John Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:24 Apr 1803 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Mark Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:11 Aug 1805 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Sarah Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:19 Aug 1796 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Anne Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:17 Oct 1798 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Anne Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:17 Oct 1798 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Susannah Clements
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 Jun 1801 Parish Church of Wisbeach-?St Peter,? Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clements,? Alice

Matthew Clemence
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:16 Feb 1808 WISBECH-?ST. PETER,? CAMBRIDGE,? ENGLAND
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clemence,? Alice

Luke Clemence
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:16 Feb 1808 WISBECH-?ST. PETER,? CAMBRIDGE,? ENGLAND
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clemence,? Alice

Mathew Clemence
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:11 May 1810 Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
residence:Wisbeach,? Cambridge,? England
parents:John Clemence,? Alice

...............................................................

First child baptised 1796 so marriage should be around this time.

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:10

Hi Catherine,
I thought I'd found them all, but obviously missed a few, so thank you for that, but appreciate your help with finding the marriages I sought, as I know you have to go backwards before going forward!
Thanks again
Melanie

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:14

Hi again Catherine,
Sorry, I missed a line or two when I was reading your reply -but I don't think that Martha married in Norwich - it would need to be within the Cambridgeshire area.
Sorry.... :-(

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:14

Possible ????


Groom's Name:John Clemments

Bride's Name:Alice Needham

Marriage Date:20 Oct 1795

Marriage Place:Walsoken, Norfolk, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:I07492-4
System Origin:England-EASy
Source Film Number:1526745

fits with date of baptism of 1st child and other county you mention so could be ?

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:17

Hi Catherine,

Thank you for finding the marriage of John Clements and Alice Needham!
This tallies with one of their children whose middle name was Needham. Sadly, he died very young.

Many thanks

Melanie

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:24

In your post you say that:-

John Clements 1802 - 1890 Emneth
who married a
Martha Unknown b. c1806 St Germans, Norfolk.

The marriage I posted states Martha was born 1804 which is about correct date, and if she was born in Norfolk, then it do you not think that it is possible the couple were also married in Norfolk?

I wouldn't dismiss it completely.
To be sure of Martha's maiden name then you need to buy a copy of the birth cert. of one of their children.

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:29

Hi Catherine,
Sorry if I've offended, but I think the marriage is the right one, it just threw me for a bit as you had said they married in Norwich, which is a fair way from Emneth and Wisbech, but I will go with this as I think it will be the right one for Martha and will purchase the certificate - thank you!
One down and one to go!!!
Kindest regards,
Melanie :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:33

If the marriage I posted is correct, then this version shows her parent's names:-

Groom's Name:John Clements
Groom's Birth Date:1802
Groom's Age:20

Bride's Name:Martha Mason
Bride's Birth Date:1804
Bride's Age:18
Marriage Date:24 Sep 1822
Marriage Place:Norwich, Norfolk, England

Groom's Father's Name:John Clements
Groom's Mother's Name:Alice Clements

Bride's Father's Name:John Mason
Bride's Mother's Name:Mary Mason

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:I07376-2
System Origin:England-EASy
Source Film Number:1595887
Reference Number:1822

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:35

Hi Gwyn In Kent,
Sorry - got a bit excited with all of the info and yes - I will try to purchase a certificate and fingers crossed it will be the right one!
Thank you very much!
Jayne

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:36

Absolutely no offence taken Melanie. Just wanted to put a bit of explaination to my theory of the marriage taking place in Norfolk. You can never be too careful in this family tree lark otherwise you can very easily go barking up the wrong one.
Catherine
:-D

Catherine

Catherine Report 1 May 2012 20:41

Looks as though they also married a day later in her birth place of St.Germain which puts a little more credibility to the marriage being correct:-


Groom's Name:John Clements

Bride's Name:Martha Mason

Marriage Date:25 Sep 1822

Marriage Place:Wiggenhall St German, Norfolk, England

Indexing Project (Batch) Number:I07461-1
Source Film Number:1278884
Reference Number:item 3

Melanie

Melanie Report 1 May 2012 20:48

Thanks Catherine!
Thank you so much for all your help - I really do appreciate it!
Melanie :-) :-)