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1911 look up please.

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Nala

Nala Report 31 May 2012 19:41

Thanks Patchem and co.

I have got mixed up a bit with this one.

As i was not sure i did not post too much info. I did not want everyone going off on wild Goose chases !

In 1919 she sent 3 postcards from her Holidays to my Grandmother. One signed Annie Pugh another Annie Cartwright and a 3rd Annie Collier.

Oh well !!! Thanks everyone from Nala. :-)

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:55

1911
PUGH, Walter Head/Father Married M 39 1872 Dyehouse Labourer Carpet Works Kidderminster Worcestershire
PUGH, Annie Mother Married 8 years 4 children F 41 1870 Kidderminster Worcestershire
PUGH, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 School Kidderminster Worcestershire
PUGH, William Son M 5 1906 School Kidderminster Worcestershire
PUGH, Walter Son M 3 1908 School Kidderminster Worcestershire
PUGH, Alica Daughter F 1 1910 Kidderminster Worcestershire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17552

Reference: RG14PN17552 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED9 SN158

Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Kidderminster
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Kidderminster Borough

Address: 1 Court 1 Lion Street Kidderminster
County: Worcestershire

It would have helped to explain more at the start - such as why no birth showing under the name you had given on free bmd.

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:53

The 1903 marriage has 3 females and 2 males:
Marriages Mar 1903
Brookes Beatrice Ann Kidderminster 6c 223
Collier Annie Kidderminster 6c 223
Gunn Sarah Ann Kidderminster 6c 223
Lane George Kidderminster 6c 223
Pugh Walter Kidderminster 6c 223

Walter Price or Walter Pugh?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 May 2012 18:51

So she was Annie Collier not Annie Cartwright? She just took her stepfather's name on the census!

Nala

Nala Report 31 May 2012 18:49

On Bmd. under Annie Collier 1903 Kidderminster.

Nala.

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:47

Where did you find the 1903 marriage details, as I cannot see it?
Thanks

Added:
We cross-posted, presumably it was a Collier marriage in 1903?

Nala

Nala Report 31 May 2012 18:45

The Annie i want was born in 1869 at Ludlow.

She was the child of John Romley Collier and Annie Davies who married in the Ludlow registration district,
They had a daughter Annie,

In the 1881 census she is a Step daughter to my Gt Gt Grandfather James Cartwright.in Kidderminster.

She grew up in Kidderminster and used both Collier and Cartwright names.

An Annie Collier got married in 1903 at Kidderminster.

My late Mother always told us how secretive this family were and could never quite work out things. So she kept quiet.
I am trying to progress as you will see i have done the backwards bit.

Hope this helps anyone trying to help me. Nala.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 May 2012 18:40

How are you related to her?

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:35

Her parents.
The niece from 1901 is now a daughter, and they claim 3 children born, 3 living:
1911
CARTWRIGHT, James Head Married M 68 1843 Gardener Kidderminster Worcs
CARTWRIGHT, Annie Wife Married40 years F 65 1846 Carpet Sewer Munslow Salop
CARTWRIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Carpet Picker Kidderminster Worcs

RG number: RG14 Piece: 17559
Reference: RG14PN17559 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED16 SN264A
Registration District: Kidderminster
Sub District: Kidderminster
Enumeration District: 16 Parish: Kidderminster Borough
Address: 418 Mill Street Kidderminster
County: Worcestershire


No obvious Price or Lane.

Added:
George Lane is married to Beatrice Annie.
Walter William Price is married to Ethel.

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:32

How do you know she married at all?

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:26

Presumably:
1901 England Census
Annie Cartwright
Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Cartwright
Mother's name: Annie Cartwright
Gender: Female
Where born: Ludlow, Shropshire, England
Civil parish: Kidderminster Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Puxton County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 2768 Folio: 37 Page Number: 2

James Cartwright 56
Annie Cartwright 54
Annie Cartwright 31 carpet sewer
Elizabeth Cartwright 8 niece


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2768; Folio: 37; Page: 2.

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 18:22

No Annie Cartwright born in Ludlow in 1869 on free bmd.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 31 May 2012 18:17

Aren't you working backwards, Nala? Much easier that way. Are you descended from Annie Cartwright? If so you would know who she married.

Nala

Nala Report 31 May 2012 18:03


I must have the wrong Annie as mine wa born in Ludlow, Shropshire in 1869.

There is another marriage of an Annie nee Cartwright in 1903 in Kidderminster,

Can you help me with this one. She married a George Lane or a Walter price.
Nala.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 31 May 2012 17:55

Do you have place of birth for either of them?

Vaguely possible:

1911 England Census

Name: Annie Bayliss
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Dudley, Worcestershire
Civil parish: Dudley Castle Hill and Dudley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Tower Street, Dudley, Worcestershire
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 21
Estimated Marriage Year: 1890
Registration district: Dudley
Registration District Number: 372
Sub-registration district: Dudley
mbers:
Name Age
William Bayliss 43
Annie Bayliss 42
Gearge Bayliss 21
John Buckley 19
Albert Buckley 18
Sary Bayliss 14
William Bayliss 12
Beatrice Bayliss 10
Lily Bayliss 4
Florance May Bayliss 1
Samuel Tenley 29

patchem

patchem Report 31 May 2012 17:55

Annie was married at age 39?
Do you know William's age?
Thanks

Added:
3 years:
Marriages Jun 1908
BAYLISS William Henry Kidderminster 6c 373
CARTWRIGHT Annie Kidderminster 6c 373

Andrew

Andrew Report 31 May 2012 17:54

Maybe


BAYLISS, William Henry Head Married M 43 1868 Baker Wixford Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLISS, Annie Maria Wife Married20 years F 41 1870 Warwickshire Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, William Henry Son Single M 19 1892 Baker Assistant Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Frances Edith Daughter F 14 1897 Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, John Leslie Son M 12 1899 School Balsall Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Beggie Victor Son M 11 1900 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Dorothy Daughter F 10 1901 School Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Norman Fredrick Son M 8 1903 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Lawrence Earnest Son M 7 1904 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Winnie Maria Daughter F 4 1907 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
BAYLISS, Marian Daughter F 1 1910 Kings Heath Worc Bir VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17848
Reference: RG14PN17848 RG78PN1091 RD383 SD1 ED25 SN119
Registration District: Kings Norton
Sub District: Kings Norton
Enumeration District: 25
Parish: Kings Norton
Address: 122 Highbury Road King's Heath
County: Worcestershire


Andy

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Nala

Nala Report 31 May 2012 17:49


Today i would like help finding a William Henry Bayliss and his wife Annie in the 1911 census. I think they could be in Kidderminster, Worcestershire.

Would they have any children now as they married in 1908? Annie was born in 1869 .

Thanks from Nala. :-)