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Elizabeth Berry born 1842

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JRod

JRod Report 9 Jun 2012 10:49

Sarah Ann above is my grandmother.
I have Charles death cert the informant is his eldest daughter Ellen by Jane,not Elizabeth his "wife" I know my grandmother was not brought up by her parents,they both had died when she was very young. supposeeither of the deaths for Elizabeth is possible

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jun 2012 23:06

is this your grandmother's birth?

Civil registration event: Birth

Name: MAY, Sarah Ann
Registration district: Stepney
County: London
Year of registration: 1884
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 449

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jun 2012 22:59

2 possibles for Elizabeth's death

Name: MAY, Elizabeth
Registration district: Stepney
County: London
Year of registration: 1887
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:45
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 333


or


Name: MAY, Elizabeth
Registration district: Stepney
County: London
Year of registration: 1884
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:43
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 310

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jun 2012 22:56

is this Charles's death?

Civil registration event: Death

Name: MAY, Charles
Registration district: [?] Stepney
County: London
Year of registration: 1886
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:55
Volume no: 1C
Page no: 324

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 22:34

sorry i think she died 1884,the same year my grandmother was born.I know Charles died 1886

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 22:28

It certainly possible that they didnt marry ,although I couldnt find a death cert for E Berry ,she died about 1887

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 22:24

I do know that Charles married Jane in Marylebone in 1855.
Also Jane died 1 Bishops yard Grosvenor square dec1864

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 8 Jun 2012 21:56

It is of course possible that Charles and Elizabeth never formally married and that initially Elizabeth simply joined Charles to look after his and her deceased sisters children.

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 21:38

no I have no information ,around that time

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jun 2012 21:04

Not found them yet on 1871

patchem

patchem Report 8 Jun 2012 21:01

JRod,
Have you got the family on the 1871 census?
Thanks

Added?
1871 England Census
Elizabeth May
Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Tidworth, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 232 Piece: 167 Folio: 16 Page Number: 25

Elizabeth May 28
Charles May 14 step son
William May 10 step son
William Boulton 27
George Ibbs 27

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 167; Folio: 16; Page: 25; GSU roll: 823302.

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 20:54

Information above is correct,although a bit more complicated

Charles May Married Jane Berry (Jane died in childbirth,with Thomas) 1864

He then Married Elizabeth ( Janes sister) Approx 1870.Frederick was her first
with Charles,dont know if she had been married before ..

My grandmother was Sarah Ann May born 1884 their last child

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 20:54

Information above is correct,although a bit more complicated

Charles May Married Jane Berry (Jane died in childbirth,with Thomas) 1864

He then Married Elizabeth ( Janes sister) Approx 1870.Frederick was her first
with Charles,dont know if she had been married before ..

My grandmother was Sarah Ann May born 1884 their last child

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Jun 2012 20:51

??

Name: Charles May
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1831
Christening Date: 13 Mar 1831
Christening Place: East Ilsley, Berkshire, England
Mother's name: Hannah May

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jun 2012 20:28

1851 census

Address:Chapel Street, Thatcham

BERRY, James Head Married M 40 1811 Blacksmith Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire
BERRY, Susannah Wife Married F 38 1813 Nurse Tidworth, Wiltshire
BERRY, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Ludgershall, Wiltshire
BERRY, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1843 Tidworth, Wiltshire
BERRY, John Son M 5 1846 Thatcham, Berkshire

did Elizabeth "marry" her sisters husband?

tempest

tempest Report 8 Jun 2012 20:22


There's this one that could be interesting

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Jane Berry
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Spouse Name: Charles May (a grocer of 31 Brown Street)
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Jul 1855
Parish: Bryanston Square St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: James Berry ( a blacksmith)
Spouse Father Name: Henry May (a carpenter)
Register Type: Parish Register

Jane gives her address as Thatcham in the county of Berkshire

patchem

patchem Report 8 Jun 2012 20:06

Was Elizabeth Berry the second wife of Charles May (there is a 10 year age difference, and a gap showing of children if the 1881 is correct)?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 8 Jun 2012 19:20

Is this the couple that you are after?

1881:

Name: Charles May
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth May
Gender: Male
Where born: Ibsley, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Limehouse
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Farrance St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Commercial Clerk (Coal & Coke)
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Limehouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 469
Folio: 46
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles May 49
Elizabeth May 39 born Thatcham, Berkshire, England
William May 20
Thomas May 17
Frederick May 9
Emma May 6
Louisa May 4
Ada Eliz May 1

How did you arrive at Elizabeth's maiden name

???
Marriages Sep 1863
Fielder Elizabeth Newbury 2c 367
MAY Charles Benjamin Newbury 2c 367

Thatcham fell within the Newbury registration district.

JRod

JRod Report 8 Jun 2012 19:12

Please help trying to trace the marriage of,

Elizabeth Berry to Charles May b1832 approximately 1870 possibly in the East End of London.

regards JRod