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Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 11 Jun 2012 10:55

thank you so much for your help!!

Flip

Flip Report 10 Jun 2012 11:39

I think her immigration was recorded as Anenberg, and it looks like she married Israel S Cohen in Sydney, 1916 - but you would need to check on Ancestry.

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Jun 2012 11:01

passenger transcript details
Name: Gheety ANNENBERG
Date of departure: 31 July 1916
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia
Date of Birth: 1895 (calculated from age)
Age: 21
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Machinist
Passenger recorded on: Page 13 of 26

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

OSTERLEY
W J Jenks
Orient
Australia
483


Flip

Flip Report 10 Jun 2012 10:16

Done a bit more searching, but not coming up with much. According to that on-line tree Isaac/Tobias re-married as he was with Rachel on the ER at the time he died in Sheffield, I think this may be the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Abrahams Rachel E Bernhard Sheffield 9c 1109
Abrahams Rachel E Anenberg Sheffield 9c 1109
Anenberg Isaac Abrahams Sheffield 9c 1109
Bernhard Isaac Abrahams Sheffield 9c 1109

But why is he recorded with 2 names??

The other thing turning up, Kitty from the 1901 census was registered as Gheety Q2/1895, York. She is on a passenger list (FMP) London - Sydney, Australia 1916 - but I don't have sub to access this.

The earlier birth I posted for Moses is the wrong one, I'll delete it - this is the right one:

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Annanberg Moses Leeds 9b 359

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 9 Jun 2012 22:22

Flip,

yes looking into this , it looks like Marjorie married 3 times!

The 1st is to John in 1940

then to William Mayo in 1953

and lastly to Edward Shuter in 1973.

I have found a couple of times now that Harrow has been mis transcribed as Harlow!!

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 18:41

Also, the possible re-marriage posted by Brummiejan was in Harrow, Middlesex according to the bmd index (so mis-transcribed somewhere as Harlow?)

Ref 5f/1583 Marjorie E Annenberg married Wiliam H Mayo in Q3/1953

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 18:23

Think this could be Fanny's death - still assuming Paul has the right details??

Deaths Mar 1909 (>99%)
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ANNENBERG Fanny Minnie 37 York 9d 24

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 18:04

To me, and I may be wrong, but this looks like an east european Jewish background. Put yourself in their place back in the late 19th & early 20th century and many changed names for various reasons, there was a lot anti-semitism around and lots of prejudice.

I assume you've found Paul's birth in Hendon and Raymond/Hazels marriage in 1959 - but he could be on a completely wrong track with his ancestry.

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 9 Jun 2012 16:37

What Flip posted is connected as I know 'Paul' is cousin to my other half.

I cant seem to get hold of him though so I am trying to research the family branch myself.

Jacob being John could be the spanner in the works, and the reason I cannot find a birth.

Brummie Jan - I cannot confirm if this could be right or not. Marriage or death cert may be helpful.

I dont understand why he cannot be found on the 1911 ! Was he born abroad!?

will investigate some more !

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 16:27

1901???

ANNENBERG, Tobias J Head Married M 37 1864 Antique Dealer
Manchester, Lancashire VIEW <<< original looks like Tobias I
ANNENBERG, Fanny Wife Married F 29 1872
Russia B S VIEW
ANNENBERG, Moses Son M 9 1892
Leeds, Yorkshire VIEW
ANNENBERG, Jacob Son M 8 1893
Leeds, Yorkshire VIEW
ANNENBERG, Kitty Daughter F 5 1896
York VIEW
ANNENBERG, Algy Son M 3 1898
York VIEW
ANNENBERG, Leonard Son M 1 1900
York VIEW
Piece: 4438
Folio: 32
Page: 17
Registration District: York
Civil Parish: York
Municipal Borough:
Address: 36, Stonegate, York
County: Yorkshire (East riding)

Squeaky020

Squeaky020 Report 9 Jun 2012 15:43

wow what a massive response !

I had to sort some washing out and came back to all this info!

I will take a look through it and report back shortly!

Thank you all.

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jun 2012 15:38

an annenberg tree on ancestry has jacob as jacob / john

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 15:27

Possible births from that link posted


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Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Annenberg Jacob Leeds 9b 424

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jun 2012 15:23

the only john john on ancestry was born c 1848

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Jun 2012 15:21

bit of a long shot but you never know

"New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," John Annenberg, 1923

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Given Name: John
Surname: Annenberg
Last Place of Residence: Philadelphia, Pa.
Date of Arrival: 24 Sep 1923
Age at Arrival: 38
Ethnicity:
Port of Departure: Hamilton, Bermuda
Port of Arrival: New York, N. Y.
Gender: Male
Marital Status: M
US Citizen: X
Ship of Travel: Fort St. George
Source Citation

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jun 2012 15:21

Can anyone view New York passenger lists on Ancestry as one listed but not got the right sub to view

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 9 Jun 2012 15:20

Marjory might have re-married??

Name: Marjorie E Annenberg
Spouse William H Mayo
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1953
Registration district: Harlow
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 5f
Page Number: 1303

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jun 2012 15:19

Some Annenburg on passenger lists coming into UK from USA but not seeing an entry for John

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2012 15:17

Have you checked this one out?

http://www.davidandcarole.info/Isaac%20Annenberg%20and%20Fanny%20Dobroklski%20from%20Paul%20Annenberg's%20Website.pdf

Father Isaac & mother Fanny

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Jun 2012 15:13

Just for info

Name: John Annenberg
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1952
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 664