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ebbw vale births

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mec

mec Report 12 Jun 2012 16:08

I'm trying to find the parents of William Robert Price b 2/4/1912 supposidly in Ebbw Vale Wales.

I've tried the usual sources ie FreeBMD and Family search but with no luck.
Can anyone help please,

I know Price will be a common name in Wales but is it possible to see if there are any families of the right kind of age in the 1911 census who might have gone on to have a son in 1912?

Any help much appreciated

Mary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 16:18

Did he marry?

Father - if known- will be named on marriage cert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 16:19

No birth on freebmd in the period you state.

Was he perhaps born with a different surname?

Where did you find out the exact DOB?

mec

mec Report 12 Jun 2012 16:28

The birthday was from a friend I presume it is correct. Also his death reg in October 1992 states he was 80

He married a Margaret McGlynn in 1950 Liverpool

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2012 16:33

This looks like his birth:-


Name: PRICE, William R
Registration district: Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1912
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Roberts
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 270

Bedwellty registration district covers Ebbw Vale.

I wonder if his middle name was Roberts after his mother's maiden name rather than just Robert.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2012 16:36

Possible marriage for parents but you really need the birth certificate to be sure as there are other Price/Roberts marriages earlier:-

Name: ROBERTS, Urinsh (the image actually says Urinah)
Registration district: Bedwellty
County: Monmouthshire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 101

MarriageFinder: Urinsh Roberts married one of the following people:

WILLIAMS, Rose
DAVIES, David D
PRICE, Moses W<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WATKINS, William

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 16:37

Never rely on hearsay - although the date isn't too far out in this instance

Name: William Robert Price
Birth Date: 2 May 1912
Date of Registration: Oct 1992
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Liverpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 36
Page: 578

Price and Roberts in Wales!

You'll need the birth cert

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 16:55

No wonder I couldn't see the birth on freebmd - used the refs from Kathleen's helpful post

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)

Price Wiliam R Roberts Bedwellty 11a 270

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Jun 2012 17:07

?????????

Births Sep 1892 (>99%)
Price Moses William Merthyr T. 11a 588

Name: Moses William Price
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1892
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1970
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Selby
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c
Page: 1800

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2012 20:30

This could be Urinah's birth:-


Name: ROBERTS, Urina
Registration district: Pontypridd
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1883
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 438

Kath. x

mec

mec Report 13 Jun 2012 20:23

Sorry not to reply sooner, had to do grandma bit!

Thanks for all your help

This all looks v promising

Mary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2012 12:45

1891


Name: Urirah Roberts
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Roberts
Mother's name: Mary Roberts
Gender: Female
Where born: Treorky, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Pontypridd St Catherine
Town: Middle
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4422
Folio: 91
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
David Roberts 36
Mary Roberts 33
Mary Roberts 15
Gwen Roberts 10
Urirah Roberts 7
Bronwen Roberts 4
Daniel Williams 30
Robert Jenkins 41
Ivor Wm Roberts 8/12

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2012 12:50

Name: Bronwen Roberts
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Treorchy, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Rhymney
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: 13 Mclaren Cottages Abertysswg Monshire
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At Home
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 14
Piece: 31877
Household Members:
Name Age
David Roberts 56
Mary Roberts 54
Bronwen Roberts 23
Ivor Wm Roberts 20

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jun 2012 12:58

1901

My conclusion is that 'Hannah' is Urinah. The image is Hannah, but that could have been copied incorrectly from the enumerator's notes


Name: David Roberts
Age in 1901: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Roberts
Gender: Male
Where born: Merthyr, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Rhymney
Ecclesiastical parish: New Tredegar St Dingat
Town: Abertysswg
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Piece: 4941
Folio: 119
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
David Roberts 46
Mary Roberts 44
Eliz Ann Roberts 22
Ewen Roberts 19 *Gwen
Hannah Roberts 16
Browen Roberts 14
Woo Wm Roberts 10 *Ivor

mec

mec Report 28 Jun 2012 21:01

I have now found out that William Robert Price's mothers name was Emily so I am back to square one!
They must have been living in the Bedwelty area as William was born there but I can't find a marriage.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Jun 2012 21:11

New thread: http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1302961

mec

mec Report 28 Jun 2012 21:28

Sorry should have added this rather than a new thread

I am looking for a Margaret Mcglynn b 7th March 1915 possibly from the Galway Bay area

She married twice first to Kenneth Pugh then to William Robert Price b 1912 (see earlier post) in 1950 in Liverpool.

Does anyone have access to Irish records?

xxx
Mary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2012 08:56

Buy the 1950 marriage cert to find out her father's name - and William's (assuming they were known)

It would also help if you identified the source of your 'info' about William Price's mother's name..............

Also - how you 'know' where William was born.............


mec

mec Report 29 Jun 2012 14:31

The birthdates and other info came from his daughter she lives in Argentina now so has no documents other than her memories.
Her father didn't talk about his father.
She has just become a Grandmother herself and I wanted to do a tree as a surprize

Mary

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2012 22:46

Unsubstantiated info from relatives is not a good basis for research

Perhaps her father 'didn't talk about his father' because he didn't know him

This tree isn't going to be completed accurately without expenditure on certs.........