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WOW! You people are great!!! Thank you. I will confer with my cousin and see what she thinks. I really don't know any more details other than what I've supplied. I know a bit about son George who was my great grandfather. He ended up a ship's captain, sailing between England and Australia. He "married" my g-g mother, Maud Woods, and they had 4 children. We're not sure where the children were born as we can't find any records in Australia. They all claim to have been born in Sydney except for the oldest , Frederick Maitland Jones, who claims to have been born in England. Thinking on this now, Maud claimed to have been married in Newcastle and everyone assumed she meant Australia but maybe she meant England. Anyway, George left her and went to live in South Australia where he died in 1906. HOWEVER, the children were told that he died in 1894 (or thereabouts, about the time he would have left) and that he'd died at sea. Interesting.

Cheers

Sharyn

1851

JONES, James Head Married M 52 1799 Galatine Manufacturer
Hertford, Hertfordshire VIEW
JONES, Susana Wife Married F 49 1802
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire VIEW
JONES, Hariett D Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829
London VIEW
JONES, Nelson Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Ap To Architecht
Kinghanel, Middlesex VIEW
BLACK, Sarah Son Unmarried F 21 1830
Blackbrook, Worcestershire VIEW

Piece: 1581 Folio: 450 Page: 28 Registration District: Camberwell Civil Parish: Saint Giles Camberwell Municipal Borough: Lambeth Address: Honor Oak, Wood Lane, Saint Giles Camberwell, Lambeth County: Surrey

In 1841, James Jones was a Warehouse Man

???

This looks lke James in 1861


1861 Census

Name: James Jones
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Dalston
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Hackney

James Jones 62 Married, Gelatin Manufacturer
Ann E Jones 24 b.ca 1837, N Isalgate (???sp), Shoreditch, Daughter
Josiah W Martin 9 b.ca 1852, Peckham, Grandson
Matilda West 16 Servant

Address:- Lansdown Road





sylvia

A Public Family Tree on ancestry has the following information


You have to be VERY careful with the trees ........ some are well researched, others are not. Take the information as advisement, but do not add to your tree until and unless you have checked every last little bit of data!


Pearce Full_2012-04-09
Owner: Stephen Pearce

James Jones
Birth 02 JUN 1801 in Hereford, Herefordshire
Death

1822 31 Dec
Age: 21
Marriage to Susanna Nelson


1838 17 Oct
Age: 37
Occupation
Sunglass (?) manufacturer


1841 6 Jun
Age: 40
Occupation
Warehouseman

Address
12 Ivy Terrace (Latterly St Johns Rd), Hoxton, Shoreditch, London, Middlesex


1859 10 Dec
Age: 58
Occupation
Gelatine Manufacturer


1861 7 Apr
Age: 59
Occupation
Merchant


1871 2 Apr
Age: 69
Address
103 Wheeley's Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham
Living with Brother-in-Law: James H Nelson
Occupation
Merchant - Retired


Parents

No Father
No Mother

Siblings

Emma S Jones1824 –
James Jones1826 –
Sarah Ann Jones1830 –
George Jones1831 –
Nelson Jones1833 –
Elizabeth Jones1836 –
Ann E Jones1837 –
Alfred Jones1840 –


Spouse & Children

Susanna Nelson 1801 – 1870

Emma S Jones 1824 –
James Jones 1826 –
Sarah Ann Jones 1830 –
George Jones 1831 –
Nelson Jones 1833 –
Elizabeth Jones 1836 –
Ann E Jones 1837 –
Jemima Maria Jones 1838 – 1877
Alfred Jones 1840 –



Information obtained from censuses and ....
Palmer, Angela J - Nelson Family Tree




Susanna Nelson
Birth 23 JUL 1801 in Nottingham, England
Death 08 JAN 1870 in Dorking, Surrey

Parents

George Nelson 1762 – 1828
Dorothea Dale 1771 – 1825

Siblings

Harriet Nelson1797 –
Sarah Nelson1798 –
George Nelson1800 – 1850
Richard Nelson1803 –
Thomas Charles Nelson1804 –
Ann Nelson1805 –
Elizabeth Dorothea Nelson1806 –
Clementia Maria Nelson1810 –
James H Nelson1811 –


Information taken by Stephen Pearce from Palmer, Angela J -- Nelson Family Tree




sylvia

Elizabeth (daughter) was baptised Ann Eliza

parents: James Jones,? Susanna
name: Ann Elisa Jones
gender: Female
birth date: 07 Jun 1836
birthplace: Norton Folgate, London, Middlesex, England
father's name: James Jones
mother's name: Susanna
indexing project (batch) number: C14622-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 815951

So this will be her and sister Jemima in 1851. I can't think why they would be in Suffolk

SHALDERS, Charlotte Head Widow F 53 1798 School Mistress
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
SHALDERS, Mary M Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Governess
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
SHALDERS, Robert Jas Son Unmarried M 19 1832 Grocer
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW
BOND, Elizabeth Pupil Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
Hacheston, Suffolk VIEW
TRAVIS, Sarah A Pupil Unmarried F 15 1836 Scholar
East Bergholt, Suffolk VIEW
>>>JONES, Ann E Pupil Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar
London VIEW
>>>JONES, Jemima Pupil Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar
London VIEW
TRAVIS, Ellen Pupil Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar
East Bergholt, Suffolk VIEW
BECKHAM, Louisa A Pupil Unmarried F 11 1840 Scholar
Ireland VIEW
WOODCOCK, Matilda Pupil Unmarried F 10 1841 Scholar
London VIEW
SHARAN, Keziah Servant Unmarried F 26 1825 Cook
Limpenhoe, Norfolk VIEW
FROST, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 22 1829 House Maid
Ipswich, Suffolk VIEW

Piece: 1799 Folio: 249 Page: 2 Registration District: Ipswich Civil Parish: St Mary Elms Municipal Borough: Ipswich Address: Elm Street, St Mary Elms, Ipswich County: Suffolk

That will be this one

NELSON, James H Head M 60 1811 Middlesex VIEW
NELSON, Harriett S Daughter F 26 1845 Warwickshire VIEW
NELSON, Maria S Daughter F 22 1849 Warwickshire VIEW
JONES, James Brother-In-Law M 72 1799 Herefordshire VIEW
JONES, Sarah A Niece F 40 1831 London VIEW
FROST, Maria Servant F 21 1850 Surrey VIEW
BARLEY, Eliza Servant F 18 1853 Worcestershire VIEW

Piece: 3083 Folio: 101 Page: 32 Registration District: Kings Norton Civil Parish: Edgbaston Municipal Borough: Birmingham Address: Wheeley Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham County: Worcestershire

Hi again all,

A distant cousin emailed me to say that James was born in Herefordshire and was still alive in the 1871 census, living in Birmingham with his brother-in-law James Nelson. She says that Susannah Nelson was born on 23 July 1801 in Nottingham.

Cheers

Sharyn

Hi Sue,

I only have the above info on George. Don't know anything of his parents except their names. We were always told that my grandfather, Oscar, George's son, was from Welsh stock but I'm not sure whether that is correct. That's really all I know.

Thanks again.

Sharyn

Thank you so much everyone for your help - that gives me something to go on with. George Jones, James' and Susannah's son, lived in New South Wales and died in South Australia. I think another son migrated to Australia as well, but not sure on that one.

Cheers and thank you sooooo much once again.

Sharyn

Sharyn

Like reggie I can find no trace of this family after 1841 census.

Can you please come back to the thread with any more info on this family that you may have.

Sue :-S

Did this family emigrate?

I'm having no luck finding them after 1841..either in censuses or on freebmd

Not alot coming up for a birth.
Possible.

West Yorkshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
about Susanna Nelson Name: Susanna Nelson
Birth Date: 3 Apr
Baptism Date: 7 May 1800
Parish: Leeds, St Peter (Leeds Parish Church)
Father's Name: Benjamin Nelson

Purely for interest........

1851


Name: George Nelson Jones
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St James, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Sepulchre
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: West London
Sub-registration district: West London North
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 1526
Folio: 286
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
George Nelson Jones 45
William Jones 45
John Edwards 30
Harrietta Edwards 28
Clara Plant 16


AND

Name: George Nelson Jones
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1805
Christening Date: 27 Jan 1806
Christening Place: Westminster, London, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: William Jones
Mother's name: Jane

Remember that ages for over-15's were rounded-down to nearest 5 in 1841.....she could have been born any time from 1801-1805

For Ref

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Susannah Nelson Name: Susannah Nelson
Spouse Name: James Jones
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 31 Dec 1823
Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Register


witts
George Nelson JOnes
Maria Jackson
Ann Jones

OK..........found 1841..........

Name: Susanna Jones
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Gender: Female
Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 708
Book: 2
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Lawford 30
William Rowood 72
Rebeca Rowood 59
John Asbron 11
Osborn 6
James Jones 40
Susanna Jones 36
Emma Jones 17
James Jones 15
Sarah Jones 12
George Jones 10
Neeson Jones 8
Elizabeth Jones 5
Jemima Jones 2 6 Mo


Susanna was NOT born in Middlesex

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Can anyone please help me with Susannah? Born Susannah Nelson, circa 1805, married James Jones in 1823 and had at least 8 children. She and James lived in Middlesex England at the time of the 1841 census. Love to know if anyone is researching the same topic. Thanks. Sharyn