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I am looing for the following family in 1871 please

John Andrews born 1808 at Smethwick, Birmingham and wife Mary A (nee Phillips) born between 1810 & 1816 according to other censuses. They married in 1833 & had 6 children Henry 1836, John 1838, Sarah 1840, Emma 1842, Thomas 1846 & Alfred 1849.

In 1841 & 1851 they are at Aston Road, Aston, Birmingham & in 1861 they are at Fordrough Rd, B'ham.

I can't find them at all in 1871. By 1881 Mary is a widow living with daughter Emma & family

Any info would be great

Carol

John Andrews
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 20 Mar 1808 SMETHWICK,?STAFFORD,?ENGLAND
parents: John Andrews,? Lydia


name: John Andrews
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Mar 1808
baptism/christening place: SMETHWICK,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
father's name: John Andrews
mother's name: Lydia
indexing project (batch) number: C06173-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 421591

John Andrews
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1808 ...,? Staffordshire
census: 1861 Birmingham,? Birmingham,? Warwickshire,? England


name: John Andrews
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 53
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: ..., Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Birmingham
sub-district: 2 St Thomas
ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
civil parish: Birmingham
county: Warwickshire

Thanks It's 1871 that I am after


Carol

????? connected

William John Andrews
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Smethwick,? Worcestershire
census: 1891 England


name: William John Andrews
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 13
birthplace: Smethwick, Worcestershire
record type: Institution
registration district: Stourbridge
sub-district: Stourbridge
ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
civil parish: Upper Swinford
county: Worcestershire

Have you found any possible deaths for John ?

Thanks, Not that I know of, but may fit in somewhere. It is a difficult name to trace. I haven't made a start on the Phillips yet - another common name!!

Carol

Hi Glitter. No burial or death. so many that it could be and I am not sure when he died. All I know is sometime between 1861 - 1881

Carol

1881 is this the right family ?

Name: Mary A. Andrews
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldbury

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 82 Lower Tower St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3002
Folio: 59
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Geo. Vernon 38
Emma Vernon 38
Emma Vernon 17
Mary Ann Vernon 15
Sarah Jane Vernon 12
George Vernon 10
Sarah Vernon 4
Mary A. Andrews 71


If not what name is Emma using in 1881 please

1861 census

Address: 3, Court 9, Fordrough Street, Birmingham

ANDREWS, John Head Married M 53 1808 ... ..., Staffordshire
ANDREWS, Mary Wife Married F 49 1812 Dudley, Worcestershire
ANDREWS, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Linen Button Coverer Birmingham, Warwickshire
ANDREWS, Thomas Son M 15 1846 Bedstead Maker Iron Birmingham, Warwickshire
ANDREWS, Alfred Son M 12 1849 Brass Founder Birmingham, Warwickshire


looking at same address on 1871 census


Address: Fordrough Street Court House, Birmingham

ANDREWS, Mary Head F 66 1805 Staffordshire

Yes that's her in 1881

Okay the Vernon family are on 1871

Hi Tempest

Thanks for that. Are you saying she was at that address in 1871? Was she living with anyone else?

Carol

also at 9 court 3 house Fordrough Street Court House, Birmingham on 1871 census

ANDREWS, Henry Head M 36 1835 Warwickshire
ANDREWS, Nancy Wife F 38 1833 Staffordshire
ANDREWS, Thomas Son M 10 1861 Warwickshire
ANDREWS, Alfred Son M 5 1866 Warwickshire
ANDREWS, Wm George Son M 5 1866 Warwickshire

1871 England Census
about Emma Vernon
Name: Emma Vernon
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Vernon
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 3101
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
George Vernon 28
Emma Vernon 28
Emma Vernon 7
Mary Ann Vernon 5
George Vernon 3
Sarah Vernon 2


Mary Andrews - widow a couple of doors down Fardrough St



1871 England Census
Name: May Andrews <<<<<<<<<<<<<Mistranscribed
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunces End, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 3101
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
May Andrews 66


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3101; Folio: 7; Page: 8; GSU roll: 839571

Thanks everyone so much. At last I've got her. Now it's reading her birthplace that's difficult.

Cheers
Carol

your welcome,

her birthplace looks like Princes End Staffordshire (I think it's near Tipton???)

Mary is listed as being born in Oldbury on other censuses....cant read the 1871!

Thanks everyone for your help. That has helped narrow the searchdown for John's death plus I can now make a start looking for the Phillips family.

Caro