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According to the marr. cert., 1892, of William Wells,( b. @ Isleham around 1832), his father was Thomas Wells (deceased). After researching Thomas Wells , b. 1817 @ Isleham, It's clear that he didn't have a son, William. Can somebody please suggest another Thomas Wells?

JEC

Are you sure about the date of the marriage? Who did he marry and what was the father's occupation on the certificate (if written) please.

Found this family in 1841
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
WELLS, Edward M 25 1816 Cambridgeshire VIEW Labourer
WELLS, Hannah F 20 1821 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, William M 8 1833 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, John M 6 1835 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Mary F 4 1837 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Enos M 1 1840 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Thomas M 20 1821 Cambridgeshire VIEW labourer
WELLS, Elizabeth F 15 1826 VIEW
WELLS, Joseph M 0 (9 months) 1841 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Joseph M 65 1776 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Sarah F 55 1786 Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, James M 15 1826 Cambridgeshire VIEW
Piece: 73
Book/Folio: 10
Page: 14
Registration District: Newmarket
Civil Parish: Isleham
Municipal Borough:
Address: ???, Isleham
County: Cambridgeshire



Regards Vera

1851
Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
WELLS, William Head Widower M 56 1795 Turffman & Farmer
Isleham, Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 25 1826
Isleham, Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, William Son Unmarried M 21 1830
Isleham, Cambridgeshire VIEW
WELLS, Eliza Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835
Isleham, Cambridgeshire VIEW
Piece: 1763
Folio: 80
Page: 15
Registration District: Newmarket
Civil Parish: Isleham
Municipal Borough:
Address: West Street, Isleham
County: Cambridgeshire


Regards Vera

what a well documented family on the census!!!


William Wells
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 28 Jul 1832 GENERAL BAPTIST,?ISLEHAM,?CAMBRIDGE,?ENGLAND
parents: Edward Wells,? Hannah


name: William Wells
gender: Male
birth date: 28 Jul 1832
birthplace: GENERAL BAPTIST,ISLEHAM,CAMBRIDGE,ENGLAND
father's name: Edward Wells
mother's name: Hannah
indexing project (batch) number: C09103-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0566024 (RG4 152)

William Wells
England and Wales Census, 1851
birth: Isleham,? Cambridgeshire
census: 1851 England


name: William Wells
age: 21
gender: M
birthplace: Isleham, Cambridgeshire
relationship to head of household: Son
record type: Household

Thomas Wells
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 22 Nov 1817 GENERAL BAPTIST,?ISLEHAM,?CAMBRIDGE,?ENGLAND
parents: Joseph Wells,? Sarah


name: Thomas Wells
gender: Male
birth date: 22 Nov 1817
birthplace: GENERAL BAPTIST,ISLEHAM,CAMBRIDGE,ENGLAND
father's name: Joseph Wells
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C09103-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 0566024 (RG4 152)

Thomas Wells
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1817 Isleham,? Cambridgeshire,? England
census: 1881 Isleham,? Cambridgeshire,? England
spouse: Elizabeth Wells
children: Joseph Wells,? Tommy Wells


name: Thomas Wells
age: 64
gender: Male
birth year: 1817
birthplace: Isleham, Cambridgeshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Farmer Of 23 Acres
address: Windy Hall
census place: Isleham, Cambridgeshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341401
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1680 / 73

Thomas Wells
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1817 Isleham,? Cambridgeshire
residence: 1871 Isleham,? Isleham,? Cambridgeshire,? England
spouse: Elizabeth Wells
children: Joseph Wells,? Jonas Wells...


name: Thomas Wells
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 54
relationship to head of household: Self
birthplace: Isleham, Cambridgeshire
record type: Household
registration district: Newmarket
sub-district: Soham
event parish: Isleham
county: Cambridgeshire

Thomas Wells 1917 would only have been 15 if he fathered a child in 1832 - and according to you William was 60 when he married - rather old don't you think?

So is this the correct William?


1891 census transcription details for: 20, Lionel Mews, Kensington
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 24
Folio: 165
Page: 49
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Town
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 37
Ecclesiastical District: St Michael & All Angels
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 20, Lionel Mews, Kensington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WELLS, William Head Married M 57 1834 Gas Works Labourer
Cambridgeshire
WELLS, Sarah A Wife Married F 54 1837 Charwoman
Bushey, Hertfordshire
BATTEN, William Son In Law Married M 23 1868 Gas Works Labourer
Plymouth, Devonshire
BATTEN, Isodore Daughter Married F 20 1871 Laundry Woman
Marden, Kent
WELLS, Harry Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Rickmansworth, Middlesex
BATTEN, Polly Granddaughter F 2 1889
Kensington, London
DALWOOD, William Boarder Single M 19 1872 Gas Works Labourer
Kensington, London


and the marriage. Mary Ann Seabrook was the only one who could write.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Sarah Ann King
Name: Sarah Ann King
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Spouse Name: William Wells
Spouse Age: 54
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 3 Jan 1892
Parish: Notting Hill Christ Church
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Thomas Fisher, chimney sweep, deceased
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Wells, deceased labourer
Register Type: Parish Register


Witnesses were Henry Taylor and Mary Ann Seabrook.

Have you got a Census where it says born Isleham?, was wondering about another below, but not sure if you have your William traced back. (Wisbech can be a tricky area, lol)


(below link has Cambs. Baptisms and Burials 1801 - 1837)

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html


Day:5
Month:Mar
Year:1837
Forenames:William Briston Wells
Surname:Wells
Relationship:son of
Father forenames:Thomas BRISTOW
Fathers occupation:gardener
Mother forenames:Frances WELLS single woman
Birth Day:
Birth Month:
Birth Year:
Abode:father - of Horsefair / mother - of Horsefair
Place:Wisbech, St Peter
County:Cambridgeshire
Record source:Cambridgeshire Baptisms
Data provider:Cambridgeshire Family History Society


1841
WELLS, Mary F 40 1801
WELLS, John M 10 1831 Cambridgeshire
WELLS, Thomas M 8 1833 Cambridgeshire
WELLS, William M 6 1835 Cambridgeshire
WELLS, Joseph M 2 1839 Cambridgeshire
BRISTOW, Thomas M 35 1806 Cambridgeshire
Piece: 79
Book/Folio: 13
Page: 21
Registration District: Wisbech Union
Civil Parish: Wisbech St Peter
Municipal Borough:
Address: Old Horse Fair, Wisbech St Peter
County: Cambridgeshire


1851
WELLS, Frances Head Unmarried F 51 1800 Charwoman
Tilney, Norfolk
WELLS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 17 1834 Ag Lab
Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
WELLS, Joseph Son M 12 1839 Scholar
Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
WELLS, Elizabeth Lodger Widow F 53 1798 Washwoman
Clenchwarton, Norfolk
Piece: 1766
Folio: 360
Page: 37
Registration District: Wisbech
Civil Parish: Wisbech St Peters
Municipal Borough: Wisbech
Address: Canal Side, Wisbech St Peters, Wisbech
County: Cambridgeshire


Deaths Sep 1844 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------
BRISTON Thomas Thetford 13 202


edits (also some Briston/Wells coming up on below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl


County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech St Peter
Church St Peter
RegisterNumber 403
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 05 Mar 1837
Forename William Briston Wells
Sex M
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Frances
FatherSurname BRISTOW
MotherSurname WELLS
Abode Horsefair
FatherOccupation Gardener
Notes Single woman of Horsefair aged 2 years
FileNumber 26039

Chris :)


1901 ?
WELLS, William Head Married M 63 1838 Gas Labr
Farnham, Surrey
WELLS, Sarah Wife Married F 64 1837
Walford, Hertfordshire
BATTEN, David Grand Son M 6 1895
Kensington, London
BATTEN, Frederick Son M 5 1896
Kensington, London
Piece: 26
Folio: 67
Page: 32
Registration District: Kensington
Civil Parish: Kensington
Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Admiral Terrace, Kensington
County: London

Message from Joan
I've been following the 1841 line, with Edward as William's father, but now find that I've been mistaken. As I say, I need a Thomas Wells of an appropriate date to be William's father. But thanks. JOan

That William that Chris Ho found sounds prominsing...........father Thomas Bristow....mother single woman Frances Wells.

Regards Vera

Good find Chris.

Regards Vera

Thank you all for your responses, some of which I have replied to directly. (should have left them 'til here and now).

The one census, 1891, which definitely includes my family has William born in Cambs.
I also have 2 in which William is born in Farnham and 1 in which he is born in Isleham.

Hopefully, when I've had the time to digest Chris's info. I may be a bit clearer.

Joan

William, on most census is described as a 'gas work labourer' . In the 1871 census he is described as a 'chair caner'.

My mother used to tell me that, as a small girl, she used to go out with her grandfather on his rounds as a chair caner and knife sharpener. She was born in 1904.

In the 1891 census he is back as a lab.

So confusing!!

Joan

Can you tell us where he is 1871?...

Chris :)



1871 ( below from a RootsChat posting, but not seeing 9 Linsdale Road)

28 WELLS, William Head M 63 1808 Kent (Ag. Lab)
28 WELLS, Sarah Wife F 52 1819 Kent
28 WELLS, William Son M 31 1840 Kent
28 WELLS, Thomas Son M 17 1854 Kent
28 WELLS, George Son M 15 1856 Kent
28 WELLS, Ann Daughter F 12 1859 Kent
28 WELLS, Alfred Son M 10 1861 Kent
28 WELLS, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1863 Kent
RG number: RG10
Piece: 888
Folio: 38
Page: 6
Sub District: Farningham
Enumeration District: 3
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: Church Street, Farningham

1871
WELLS, William Head M 33 1838 Kent Farnham (Chair Caner)
WELLS, Sarah Wife F 34 1837 Herefordshire (Hertfordshire Bushey
WELLS, Henry J Son M 4 1867 Middlesex
WELLS, E Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex
KEATING, Ellen Adopted Child F 11 1860 Middlesex
Piece: 44
Folio: 79
Page: 63
Registration District: Kensington
Civil Parish: Kensington
Municipal Borough:
Address: Lonsdale Road, Kensington
County: London, Middlesex


1911
WELLS, William Head Widower M 75 1836 General Labourer Farnham Surrey
BATTON, David Grandson Single M 17 1894 Baker's Machine Winder Kensington
BATTON, Frederick Grandson M 15 1896 Wood Chopper Kensington
RG number: RG14
Piece: 187
Reference: RG14PN187 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED22 SN284
Registration District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington North
Enumeration District: 22
Parish: Kensington
Address: 1 Wornington Mews No Kensington W
County: London

Interesting that I use Roots Chat but haven't seen the 1871 census you show. However, I'm a very new user and don't really know, yet, how to get the best out of it.

The 2nd 1871 census is the one I have. Lonsdale Rd. S/Be Linsdale Rd?

1901 census I have. Frederick S/Be grandson? This is backed up by the 1911 census. This I have.

Thank you Chris. I shall continue to try to find my way through the maze.

Joan