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GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 16 Aug 2012 14:28

Ok Lets try and sort it out.

William Watt and Magdalen Greenshields married in Edinburgh 4 Jun 1854
Most Scottish births up until 1875 can be found on Family Search

Children of William and Magdalen: ( All born in Edinburgh)
Agnes Watt b 18 Oct 1855
Richard Watt b 4 Mar 1860 ***
James Archibald Sidney Watt b 5 Oct 1862
William Watt b 2 Feb 1865
Robert Ramage Foster Watt b 5 Mar 1867
David Watt 4 Sep 1869
Jessie Knox Watt b 17 Jun 1862
Williamina Pottinger Watt b 20 May 1874
John Watt bc 1876

Then Richard, son of William and Magdalen
Richard Watt married Margaret Munro in 1885
Children found on census records: ( all have Edinburgh as place of birth)

Rose F Watt bc 1885
William G Watt bc 1889
Richard F Watt bc 1894
Fraser Munro Watt b 1900



Edit:
After Magdalen and William married, Magdalen's parents Richard and Agnes ( Douglas) Greenshields moved to London with some of their other children.
They are found in London from 1861 onwards.

sarah

sarah Report 16 Aug 2012 12:53

Hi, thank you so much for all your help. Can you help me out again? I am really in a muddle!!!
Fraser 1900 siblings were Rose, William and Richard. parents Richard and Margaret. then i have Magadlene as the mother of Richard with William, Robert, David, Jessie and John as the siblings? I can't work it out in my head?
sarah x

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 15 Aug 2012 20:46

Sarah,
It looks as if Richard Greenshields and Agnes Douglas moved to London.
Agnes was on the 1851 census in Edinburgh, but no husband in household.

Then, in 1861...

1861 England Census
about Agnes Greenshield
Name: Agnes Greenshield
Age:55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation:Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Greenshield
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 251
Piece: 85
Folio:40
Page Number: 39
15 UPPER CHARLTON STREET
Household Members:
Name
Richard Greenshield 54 B Scotland. Occ: Cabinet Maker
Agnes Greenshield 55 wife
James Greenshield 21 son B Scotland. Pianoforte Maker
Mary A Greenshield 5 g/daughter B Middlesex

Richard dies 1866

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Richard Greenshields
Name: Richard Greenshields
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1866
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a

1871
1871 England Census
about Agnes Greenshields
Name:Agnes Greenshields
Age 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinboro
Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 262
Piece: 152
Folio:24
Page Number:41
12 GEORGE STREET
Household Members:Name

Agnes Greenshields 63 b Edinburgh
Agnes Greenshields 40 daughter b Edinburgh
Magdalin Greenshields 15 Grand daughter b Marleybone

I cannot locate a death for Agnes Greenshields b circa 1808, but there is one for the other Agnes Greenshields b 1832. She died in London in 1896.

Information overload:
James Greenshields bc 1839, Piano Maker
He married Caroline Judith Neal in St Pancras in 1873

The relevant census data is available if required

Anne







sarah

sarah Report 15 Aug 2012 03:27

Thank you both so much, you have done more in one evening than I have in a year. Please if you find anything else out please let me know. Muchly appreciated Sarah

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Aug 2012 23:47

Sarah,
Sorry I missed your question and confusion above, before I added my bit.
This is the descendency leading to Fraser Munro Watt b 1900
I hope this makes it easier

Richard Greenshields and Agnes Douglas married in Edinburgh 23 Nov 1829.
Daughter Magdalena Greenshields b 17 Apr 1834 married William WATT on 4 June 1854

Their son Richard WATT b 4 Mar 1860 married Margaret MUNRO in Edinburgh 1884
and... their son FRASER MUNRO WATT was born in Edinburgh 1900 and married Ivy May Fahey

Anne

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Aug 2012 23:22

Magdalen Greenshields born 17 Apr 1834 in Edinburgh.
Parents: Richard Greenshields and Agnes Douglas who married in St Cuthberts, Edinburgh on 23 Nov 1829

1851 Scotland Census about Magdalen Greenshields
Name: Magdalen Greenshields
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Daughter
Mother's Name: Agnes Greenshields
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Parish Number: 685/1
Civil parish: Edinburgh Old Church
County: Midlothian
Address: 28 High Street Fountain Close
Occupation: Seamstress
ED: 12
Page: 12 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 52
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1851_178
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes Greenshields 48
Agnes Greenshields 19
Magdalen Greenshields 17
Margaret Greenshields 14
James Greenshields 12

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Aug 2012 23:05

Sarah,
The Scottish Census data for the Watt family provided by PricklyHolly will be correct.
You mentioned Frazer Munro Watt.

The 1891 and 1901 returns refer to Richard Watt and Margret MUNRO who married in St George, Midlothian in 1884.
It would be advisable to obtain the marriage cert from Scotlands People to confirm, but it looks like Richard was born in Edinburgh 4 Mar 1860.
Parents: William Watt and Magdalena Greenshield who married in Edinburgh 4 Jun 1854.... which also concurs with the earlier census data.

The births of their children can be found in family search

( info also reflects birth of William Greenshields Watt also found by PricklyHolly)

Anne

sarah

sarah Report 14 Aug 2012 22:28

Sorry, I'm a little confused! Richard and Margaret had Fraser, Rose, William and Fraser.
But this Magadlene had Richard with Richard and then William and Magdaline got together is that how you read it?

sarah

sarah Report 14 Aug 2012 22:17

Thank you for your help

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 21:18

According to a tree on Ancestry, the Mother of Richard Watt is Madeline Greenshields.

Richard's son William G Watt..........is apparently....William Greenshields Watt.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 19:51

??

Possibly...

1881 Scotland Census
about Richard Watt
Name: Richard Watt
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Magadlene Watt
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh, St George
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil parish: St George
Town: Edinburgh
County: Midlothian
Address: 2 Cheyne Street
Occupation: Baker
ED: 116
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 3
Roll: cssct1881_283
Household Members: Name Age
Magadlene Watt 47
Richard Watt 20
William Watt 16
Robert Watt 14
David Watt 11
Jessie Watt 9
John Watt 5
Margaret McDermon 84


1871 Scotland Census
about Richard Watt
Name: Richard Watt
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William Watt
Mother's Name: Magdaline Watt
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 12 Allan Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 100
Household schedule number: 93
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1871_157
Household Members: Name Age
William Watt 38
Magdaline Watt 37
Agnes Watt 15
Charles Watt 73
Richard Watt 11
James Watt 8
William Watt 6
Robert Watt 4
David Watt 1


1861 Scotland Census
about Richard Watt
Name: Richard Watt
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William Watt
Mother's Name: Magdalena Watt
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 14 Allan Street
ED: 84
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1861_125
Household Members: Name Age
William Watt 27
Magdalena Watt 26
Agnes Watt 5
Charles Watt 3
Richard Watt 6


sarah

sarah Report 14 Aug 2012 19:39

you are brilliant, thank you so much!!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 19:39

1891 Scotland Census
about Rose Watt
Name: Rose Watt
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Richd Watt
Mother's Name: Margaret Watt
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685A/2
Registration district: St George Burgh
Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 14 Dean St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 21
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1891_334
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Watt 31
Margaret Watt 25
Rose Watt 6
Wm Watt 3


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 19:27

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Ivy May Watt
Name: Ivy May Watt
Birth Date: 14 Jul 1904
Date of Registration: Jan 1995
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Register Number: B48C
District and Subdistrict: 6191B
Entry number: 70

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 19:20

Looking at the image of the 1911 census, John Fahey was born in Bath IRELAND.


Maybe they married in Ireland?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 19:07

According to the 1911 census, John and Honora had been married for 7 years. I am not seeing an appropriate marriage that fits with that!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 18:51

I found the above info on Ancestry.

For Scotland records you need the "Scotlands People" site. You need to buy credits to be able to view the records.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 18:47

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: FAHEY, Ivy May
Address: 9 Napier Street Lincoln

FAHEY, John Head Married7 years M 32 1879 Core Maker Iron Bath VIEW
FAHEY, Honora Wife Married F 26 1885 Lincoln VIEW
FAHEY, Ivy May F 7 1904 Lincoln VIEW
FAHEY, Richard Wright M 5 1906 Lincoln VIEW
FAHEY, Tomas Leonard M 4 1907 Lincoln VIEW
FAHEY, Robert Farence M 2 1909 Lincoln VIEW
SHAW, Jessie Boarder Married M 32 1879 Foundry Labour Saxilby VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 19758
Reference: RG14PN19758 RG78PN1182 RD418 SD2 ED39 SN105
Registration District: Lincoln
Sub District: Lincoln Home
Enumeration District: 39
Parish: Lincoln
Address: 9 Napier Street Lincoln
County: Lincolnshire

(4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died)

sarah

sarah Report 14 Aug 2012 18:46

wow, your good!! where do I access this information from

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Aug 2012 18:45

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Ivy May Fahey
Name: Ivy May Fahey
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1904
Registration district: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 520