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John Maskelyne was born circa 1836 in Mildenhall, Wiltshire. He married one of my ancestros - Eliza Mortimer. They appear on the census returns all the way up until 1891 when George is living in ogbourne st George, wiltshire while his wife Eliza is a patient in hospital in preshute, wiltshire. She died shortly after. I have not been able to find a death record for John though. There are two that I have found in Wiltshire with the same spelling as I have listed above but the birth year doesn't work out. I know it's bound to be a spelling issue but so far haven't worked out the right combination. I would appreciate any help in tracing his death record.

John Maskelyne
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1836 Mildenhall,? Wiltshire,? England
census: 1881 Milton-?Lilborne,? Wiltshire,? England
spouse: Eliza Maskelyne


name: John Maskelyne
age: 45
gender: Male
birth year: 1836
birthplace: Mildenhall, Wiltshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Ag Carter
address: Clinch
census place: Milton-Lilborne, Wiltshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341497
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 2062 / 56
page number: 20

Yes that's the family.

???


Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Maslen John 81 Marlbro 5a 78

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Tricky one :-S


Cant see anyting for him on the censuses after 1891 so maybe the above death is not him


Need to do some more more digging

If his death was registered by someone who didn't really know him, the recorded age could be wrong

Hang on a minute............


you said

George is living in ogbourne st George


Is it John or George we are looking for?


x

In 1871 and 1891, his birth year is recorded as c1834

Have you checked to see whether he re-married after Eliza's death?

There is a marriage in 1893 to either a Harriet or a Rose


Then there is this....age 10 years out but?


1901 England Census
about John Maskline
Name: John Maskline
Age: 77
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Maskline
Gender: Male
Where born: Minal Warren, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Chisledon
Ecclesiastical parish: Draycot Foliat
Town: Draycot Foliat
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Swindon
Sub-registration district: Swindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 1904
Folio: 82
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
John Maskline 77 <<<<<<Labourer on farm
Harriet Maskline 59




Deaths Sep 1914
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Maskelyne John 91 Swindon 5a 1

Sorry I ment John not George - he was living in Ogbourne st George! Whoops!

Yes I suppose it's possible his age wasn't known exactly if the person registering the death didn't know especially as Elizabeth died first and they didn't have any children plus most of John's siblings had died before 1891 except his youngest brother Henry and possibly his sister Dinah but then I would expect them to know his birth year if they registered the death?

I haven't checked for remarrying so I will have a look for that.

This is the same man as in the 1901 census that I posted earlier. Icant seem to find him before 1901????


1911 England Census
Name: John Masklyne
Age in 1911: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Minal, Wiltshire, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<same place as Mildenhall!
Civil parish: Liddington
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: Church Road, Liddington, Swindon, Wilts
Marital Status: Widower
Occupation: Parish Relief
Registration district: Swindon
Registration District Number: 240
Sub-registration district: Swindon
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 11771
Household Members: Name Age
William Grubb 60
Annie Grubb 60
John Masklyne 85


Ruled out that death I posted earlier, found him on the censuses......not your man

Sarah - is this one of the deaths you ruled out?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: John Maskelyne
Birth Date: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 13


This is the associated probate record in case any of the names ring bells:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John Maskelyne
Probate Date: 23 Jul 1929
Death Date: 5 Jun 1929
Death Place: Wiltshire, England
Registry: London, England

Lived Fairweather House, Wroughton, Wilts. Probate to Louisa Jane Maskelyne (widow), John Wirdman Maskelyne retired farmer and Robert william Maskelyne bank cashier. Effects £2100 8s 8d

Ooo - I reckon that is him on the census given it states Minal as his birthplace. His birth year is definitly out by 10 years and there isn't an error in transcription like I thought there might - census definitely reads age 77 yrs. I searched 1891 census for another John Mask* born Mildenhall/Minal in case it was another John but I couldn't find one .

I think the John above is your man. Mildenall is the same place as Minal!


He maybe forgot how old he was..........I know I do, but I dont 'add' on 10 years ;-)

Yes definitly my man Gins - yes I knew Minal and Mildenhall was the same place - I wonder whether harriet completed the census return and wasn't sure of his age?


I did discount that 1929 death because his widow's name didn't match what i had for him, birth year was out plus the 1911 census shows he was born Walton on Thames, Surrey

Couldn't find John and Harriet on 1911 so they must have died by then. Found this death for harriet:

Name: Harriet Maskelyne
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1905
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Swindon
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume:5a
Page:14

Thats that then!


But me being extra careful, I would buy that marriage certificate for John & Harriet


Marriages Sep 1893
Masklyne John Marlbro' 5a 179
Newman Harriet Marlbro' 5a 179



:-D

I will see if I can find the marriage when I next go to Wiltshire Record Office to see if there is any information on it that links him to my man before paying out for the certificate. Still can't find a death record for him though!

Sarah

I posted the 1914 death earlier!

Thank 'gawed' for that!



:-D