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1881 look up please

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KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 22:09

I think you need to buy the marriage certificate for Evan Thomas and Hannah Gwynne because I think the one he married may be a completely different Hannah and not the one born in Mathry.

The witnesses on the certificate may help.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 22:07

In 1901 Both Hannah Thomas and Evan Thomas are servants in the same household but both are single:-

1901 census transcription details for: Lockturffin, Penlan Mabus, Mathry

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 5131
Folio: 101
Page: 3
Reg. District: Haverfordwest
Sub District: St Davids
Parish: Mathry
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: Mathry
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Lockturffin, Penlan Mabus, Mathry
County: Pembrokeshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

THOMAS, Mary A Head Married F 66 1835 Farmer
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Anna Daughter F 24 1877 Farmers Daughter
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
DAVIES, James Servant Single M 42 1859 Farm Bailiff
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
PHILLIPS, Benjamin Servant Single M 29 1872 Coachman (Domestic)
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
EVANS, Martha Servant Single F 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic)
Hayscastle, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Hannah Servant Single F 21 1880 Kitchenmaid (Domestic)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
HOWELLS, Martha Servant Single F 24 1877 Dairy Maid (Domestic)
St Davids, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Evan Servant Single M 18 1883 Agricultural Labourer
Mathry, Pembrokeshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMAS, William Servant Single M 15 1886 Agricultural Labourer
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
JOHNS, Vincent J G Visitor Single M 28 1873 Solicitor
Llanstinan, Pembrokeshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 22:03

Again in the 1891 census:-

1891 census transcription details for: Wannfach, Castle Morris, Mathry

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4538
Folio: 106
Page: 4
Reg. District: Haverfordwest
Sub District: St David's
Parish: Mathry
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: Mathry
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Wannfach, Castle Morris, Mathry
County: Pembrokeshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

THOMAS, Joseph Head Married M 56 1835 Tailor
St Lawrence, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Dinah Wife Married F 44 1847
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Hannah Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Mathry, Pembrokeshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMAS, Evan Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Mathry, Pembrokeshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
THOMAS, Kate Daughter F 7 1884
Mathry, Pembrokeshire
THOMAS, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1887
Mathry, Pembrokeshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 22:01

This is the same family in the 1881 census - Hannah Thomas, NOT Hannah Gwynne:-

1881 census transcription details for: Waunfach, Mathry

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5421
Folio: 112
Page: 8
Reg. District: Haverfordwest
Sub District: St Davids
Parish: Mathry
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Waunfach, Mathry
County: Pembrokeshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

THOMAS, Joseph Head Married M 41 1840 Tailor & Farmer
St Lawrence, Pembrokeshire, Wales
THOMAS, Dinah Wife Married F 33 1848 Tailors Wife
Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales
THOMAS, William Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales
THOMAS, John Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales
THOMAS, Mary A Daughter Single F 4 1877
Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales
THOMAS, Hannah Daughter Single F 2 1879
Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 21:55

Have you seen this 1911 census? Are you perhaps mixing this Hannah up with Hannah Gwynne? :-

1911 census transcription details for: Waun Vach Castle Morris Letterston Pem

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN33229 RG78PN1904 RD602 SD3 ED11 SN29
Reg. District: Haverfordwest
Sub District: St Davids
Parish: Mathry
Enum. District: 11

Address: Waun Vach Castle Morris Letterston Pem
County: Pembrokeshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

THOMAS, Dinah Head Widow F 65 1846 Farmers Tailor Widow Mathry Pem
THOMAS, Evan Son Single M 29 1882 Farmer Son Working On Farm Mathry Pem
THOMAS, Hannah Daughter Single F 32 1879 Farmer's Daur Dairy Mathry Pem<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

This one gives her birthplace as Mathry but she is the sister of Evan Thomas, not his wife - or do you think this census record may be wrong as both Thomas and Hannah are described as single on here.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 21:50

But you said she was born in Mathry. That information wouldn't be on the marriage index so where did you get that from?

Kath. x

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 19:33

kathleen that is the marriage details ........... thank you

she wed Evan Thomas

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 19:33

hi

all i know is the name on the details on free bmd i need to get the wedding certificate

thank you so much for looking you tried yr best as always :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2012 18:48

1884 dob

Hannah Gwynne
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Pwllcrochan Pembroke,? Pembrokeshire
census: 1911 Carew,? Hobbs Bridge Milton Pembroke,? Pembrokeshire,? Wales


name: Hannah Gwynne
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 22
birthplace: Pwllcrochan Pembroke, Pembrokeshire
record type: Household
registration district: Pembroke
sub-district: Tenby
parish: Carew
county: Pembrokeshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2012 16:55

you must know more about her surely - tell us all please

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 16:46

Is this the marriage? :-


Name: GWYNNE, Hannah
Registration district: Haverfordwest
County: Pembrokeshire
Year of registration: 1902
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 2027

MarriageFinder: Hannah Gwynne married one of the following people:

JOHNSON, Levi Arthur
THOMAS, Evan
GEORGE, Annie Mary

If so who did she marry? Where did you get her birthplace from?

Kath. x

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 16:35

thank you too kathleen x

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 16:35

thank you too kathleen x

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 16:34

i got the name from free bmd hannah gwynne, the name was on marriage details on free bmd

thank you

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2012 15:41

Haverfordwest would be the registration district for Mathry but no obvious birth for that name

Nearest match is this one

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

GWYNNE Amelia Haverfordwest 11a 946

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2012 15:29

tell us what else you know about her - that might help find her

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Sep 2012 15:22

Where have you got her place of birth from ?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 9 Sep 2012 15:21

The 1881 census is free to search.

This is the only Hannah Gwynne born then that I can see:-

1881 census transcription details for: 32, Queen Street, Ystradyfodwg

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 5302
Folio: 32
Page: 66
Reg. District: Pontypridd
Sub District: Ystradyfodwg
Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: 32, Queen Street, Ystradyfodwg
County: Glamorganshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

GWYNNE, John Head Married M 38 1843 Coal Miner
Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire, Wales
GWYNNE, Hannah Married F 27 1854 -
Llandisel, Cardiganshire, Wales
GWYNNE, Mary Daughter Single F 19 1862 Domestic Servant
Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire, Wales
GWYNNE, David Son Single M 14 1867 Coal Miner
Cwmaman Aberdare
GWYNNE, Margaret A Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Pentre, Glamorganshire, Wales
GWYNNE, Hannah G Daughter Single F 3 1878 -
Pentre, Glamorganshire, Wales
THOMAS, Catherine Daughter Single F 2 1879 -
Neath, Glamorganshire

Kath. x

Shirley_05

Shirley_05 Report 9 Sep 2012 15:16

HANNAH GWYNNE born 1879 Mathry Pembrokeshire

thank you