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Looking for info on James Harries...please help! x

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Emziee

Emziee Report 13 Oct 2012 11:18

Hi there, I am looking for any relations, or anyone who might have some information on James Harries born abt 1849 St.Issels, Narberth, Wales.
I have become stuck trying to discover his parents. I have found correct census records of him from 1881 onwards- but am having trouble with the ones prior to these.

His occupation on the census of 1881 is listed as Seaman...could it be that he wouldn't be on/very hard to find him on any records before this? I am trying to find an records to do with this occupation.

If you think you might be a relation....I am a direct descendant of Benjamin Edward Harries, his son. James married a Marry Ann Wilcox. And they lived in St Issels in Narberth.

Thankyou for your time,

Emily xx

Helen

Helen Report 13 Oct 2012 11:22

1851 Wales Census about James Harries
Name: James Harries
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Harries
Mother's Name: Jane Harries
Gender: Male
Where born: St Issells
Civil Parish or Township: St Issells
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Llanboidy
ED, institution, or vessel: 7c
Piece: 2475
Folio: 821
Page Number: 5
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Harries 37
Jane Harries 36
Thomas Harries 5
James Harries 3

Helen

Helen Report 13 Oct 2012 11:24

1861 Wales Census about James Harries
Name: James Harries
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Harries
Mother's Name: Jane Harries
Gender: Male
Where born: St Issels, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: St Issel
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4151
Folio: 109
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Harries 45
Jane Harries 49
Thomas Harries 14
James Harries 12
William Harries 10
Fredrick Harries 3

Helen

Helen Report 13 Oct 2012 11:24

Great Britain, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 about James Harries
Name: James Harries
Estimated Age: 37
Birth Date: 1849
Birth Place: Dinas, Pembrokeshire
Issue Date: 17 Aug 1886
Issue Port: Flyland
Certificate Number: 95507

Helen

Helen Report 13 Oct 2012 11:27

Name: James Harries
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1849
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 26
Page: 735 (click to see others on page)

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 13 Oct 2012 11:28

possible

1851 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address
Parish Saint Issells
District Narberth, Begelly
Administrative County Pembrokeshire

Householder 1
Name Thomas Harries
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1814
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Carpenter
Birth Place Narberth
Birth County

Householder 2
Name Jane Harries
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1815
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place St Issells
Birth County

Householder 3
Name Thomas Harries
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place St Issells
Birth County

Householder 4
Name James Harries
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place St Issells
Birth County

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 12:13

1871 Wales Census
about Thomas Harries
Name: Thomas Harries
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Harries
Gender: Male
Where born: St Issels, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil parish: St Issels
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 40
Piece: 5511
Folio: 34
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Harries 56 (Carpenter)
Jane Harries 57
Thomas Harries 24 (Carpenter)
Fredrick Harries 14

All born St Issels Pembrokeshire.


Helen

Helen Report 13 Oct 2012 12:19

1841 Wales Census about Thomas Harries
Name: Thomas Harries
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil parish: Narberth
Hundred: Narberth
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Narberth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1448
Book: 18
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Name
James Harries 57
Mary Harries 59
Thomas Harries 25
James Harries 20
Catharine Thomas 20
John Harries 15

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 12:26

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Harries
Name: Thomas Harries
Souse Name: Jane Davies
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1846
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume Number: 26
Page Number: 1009

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 12:34

Jane Harries on the image.....

1891 Wales Census
about Jane Hames
Name: Jane Hames
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Saundersfoot, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Issells
Ecclesiastical parish: St Issells
Town: Saundersfoot
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4526
Folio: 78
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Fred Harries 31
Jane Hames 13 ...........Mother (Wid).......age 73
Res: Cliff Road

(Living 3 doors away (Cliff Cottage) from her son James Harries....Sailor)!!!



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Jane Harries
Name: Jane Harries
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1894
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 669




1881 Wales Census
about Fred Harries
Name: Fred Harries
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Jane Harries
Gender: Male
Where born: Saundersfoot, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Issells
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Cambrian House
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Sailor

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5407
Folio: 94
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Harries 63 (Carpenters Widow)
Fred Harries 23
Ben Beynon 21 (Lodger)



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 12:40

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Thomas Harries
Name: Thomas Harries
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1876
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 436

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 15:06

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HARRIES, William
Address: 4 Railway St Saundersfoot Pembrokeshire S Wales

HARRIES, William Head Married M 59 1852 Mariner At Home Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
HARRIES, Caroline Wife Married36 years F 57 1854 Amroth Pem VIEW
HARRIES, Florence Granddaughter F 12 1899 School Pembroke Pem VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 33123
Reference: RG14PN33123 RG78PN1898 RD600 SD3 ED12 SN54
Registration District: Narberth
Sub District: Begelly
Enumeration District: 12
Parish: St Issells
Address: 4 Railway St Saundersfoot Pembrokeshire S Wales
County: Pembrokeshire
(3 children born and living)



1881 Wales Census
about Caroline Harries
Name: Caroline Harries
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Amroth, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Issells
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Picton Cottage
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Marriners Wife

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5407
Folio: 92
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Harries 26
John H. Harries 6
William Harries 8mnths




1891 Wales Census
about William Harris
Name: William Harris
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Harris
Mother's Name: Carolina Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Saundersfoot, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Issells
Ecclesiastical parish: St Issells
Town: Saundersfoot
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4526
Folio: 93
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
William Harris 39
Carolina Harris 38
Howard Harris 16
William Harris 10
Eliza J Harris 7


It looks like Howard is John....

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Harries John Howard Haverfordwest 11a 973



1901 Wales Census
about Caroline Harries
Name: Caroline Harries
Age in 1901: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Harries
Gender: Female
Where born: Amroth, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Issel
Ecclesiastical parish: St Issel
Town: Saunders Foot
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Begelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 5119
Folio: 131
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
William Harries 49
Caroline Harries 47
John H Harries 26 (Widower)
William H Harries 20
Eliza Jane Harries 17
Edith M Harries 4 (Grandaughter)
Caroline F Harries 2 (Grandaughter)

So John Howard must be the father of the Grandchildren.




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 13 Oct 2012 15:15


Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)

Eynon Sophia Pembroke 11a 1579
HARRIES John Howard Pembroke 11a 1579



Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
Harries Sophia 23 Pembroke 11a 632


Died the same quarter as her Daughter Caroline was born...


Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
Harries Caroline Florence Pembroke 11a 1125




Emziee

Emziee Report 15 Oct 2012 11:32

Thank you all very much for your help. The census records you've found are brilliant, I believe them to be true. And the marriage of Thomas and Jane, giving her Maiden name as Davies I would never have found- the searches I've been doing for that early on never seem to show the wife's maiden name. Hopefully, I can add to my tree now and more will come to me.

It's going to take me some time to sort through all this properly, but many thanks :)

I shall keep you informed

xx

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2012 12:33

It seems John remarried in 1902 although i have yet to find him in the 1911 census to ascertain who he married!

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
Connick Anna Pembroke 11a 1607
Harries John Howard Pembroke 11a 1607
Mathias Ellen Pembroke 11a 1607





William H Harries occupation in the 1901 census is Mariner.

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
BRENNAN Annie Patrica Pembroke 11a 2035
HARRIES William Henry Pembroke 11a 2035



Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HARRIES, William
Address: Milford Street Saundersfoot

HARRIES, William Head Married M 32 1879 Sailor At House Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
HARRIES, Annie Wife Married7 years F 32 1879 Ci Kilkenny Ireland VIEW
HARRIES, Joseph Son M 5 1906 School Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
HARRIES, William Son M 3 1908 Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
HARRIES, Margaret Daughter F 2 1909 Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
HARRIES, Mary Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Saundersfoot Pem VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 33124
Reference: RG14PN33124 RG78PN1898 RD600 SD3 ED13 SN117
Registration District: Narberth
Sub District: Begelly
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: St Issells
Address: Milford Street Saundersfoot
County: Pembrokeshire
(5 children born, 4 living, 1 had died)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2012 13:46

It seems that Eliza Jane in the 1901 census preferred her middle name...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Emily Eliza J Harries
Name: Emily Eliza J Harries
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1884
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 968



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Emily Eliza J Harries
Name: Emily Eliza J Harries
Spouse: Frederick George Math-an>>>>>Mistranscribed
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1909
Registration district: Narbech
Inferred County: Pembrokeshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 2081



Household transcription
1911 census

Person: MATHIAS, Emily
Address: 33 Sycamore St Bufferland Pembroke Dock

MATHIAS, Fred Head Married M 26 1885 General Founder Pembrokeshire Pembroke Dock VIEW
MATHIAS, Emily Wife Married F 27 1884 Pembrokeshire Saundersport VIEW
MATHIAS, Caroline Daughter F 0 1911 Pembrokeshire Pembroke Dock VIEW
HARRIES, Edith Niece F 14 1897 Pembrokeshire Pembroke VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 33152
Reference: RG14PN33152 RG78PN1900 RD601 SD2 ED8 SN421
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub District: Pembroke
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Pembroke St Mary
Address: 33 Sycamore St Bufferland Pembroke Dock
County: Pembrokeshire
(2 children born and living)


Edith must be the other Grandaughter (John Howards Daughter) who appears in the 1901 census.


Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Harries Edith Mary Pembroke 11a 1185




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2012 14:02

If you look at the 1901 census for Frederick George Mathias.........you will see he has a Brother Albert.

So this looks like Emily and Fredericks other child who is not with them in th 1911 census..........


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: MATHIAS, Frederick
Address: 73 Military Road Pennar Pembroke Dock

MATHIAS, Albert Head Married M 28 1883 Shipwright Pembrokeshire Pembroke Dock VIEW
MATHIAS, Annie Wife Married2 years F 26 1885 Housekeeper Pembrokeshire Pembroke Dock VIEW
MATHIAS, Frederick Nephew M 1 1910 Pembrokeshire Pembroke Dock VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 33153
Reference: RG14PN33153 RG78PN1900 RD601 SD2 ED9 SN141
Registration District: Pembroke
Sub District: Pembroke
Enumeration District: 9
Parish: Pembroke St Mary
Address: 73 Military Road Pennar Pembroke Dock
County: Pembrokeshire



Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
MATHIAS Frederick William J Pembroke 11a 1461



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Oct 2012 20:03

Following on from the 1841 census for Thomas born 1816...........his occupation is a Carpenter and the same occupation is given for Brothers James and John and his Father James...........

??
1851 Wales Census
about James Harris
Name: James Harris
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Narberth, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Narberth
Town: Narberth
County/Island: Pembrokeshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Narberth
Sub-registration district: Llanboidy
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Piece: 2475
Folio: 486
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
James Harris 67 (Carpenter) Born Narbth Pembrokeshire
Mary Harris 71 Born Narbeth Pembrokeshire


You might want to check out the image for the 1841 census as there is also a George Harries on there with his family..........age 47 occ: Malsters Carrier.

Might possibly be James's brother??