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Please could look at the above census. John was born about 1800 (not sure where) and I believe is in Halifax in 1871. Thanks.

This one?

1871 England Census about John Menzies
Name: John Menzies
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 4395
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Flora Louisa Menzies 40 - Housekeeper (unmarried)
John Menzies 70 - Gardener
Jessie Menzies 37 - Dressmaker (unmarried - sister)
...................................

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Jessie Menzies
Name: Jessie Menzies
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1833
Father's Name: John Menzies
Mother's name: Mary Ann Menzies

Do you know he was still alive in 1871 ?

Who is he connected to ?
wife? child? parents ? siblings ?

Where have you found him in other censuses ?

1871 England Census

Name: John Menzies
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 4395
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Flora Louisa Menzies 40
John Menzies 70
Jessie Menzies 37


Both daughters born Halifax

1871

Name: John Menzies
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 4395
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Flora Louisa Menzies 40 b. Halifax
John Menzies 70
Jessie Menzies 37 Sister, b. Halifax


1851

Name: John Menzies
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy Menzies
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 2298
Folio: 141
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Menzies 50 Inn Keeper
Nancy Menzies 40 Wife, b. Yorkshire
Susan Bentley 20 Serv
Susan Eastwood 19 Serv
Betty Ely 20 Visitor
Willm Harris 53 Visitor

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Jessie Menzies
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 1 Oct 1833
Father's Name: John Menzies
Mother's name: Mary Ann Menzies

1901 England Census

Name: Jessie Menzies
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
Ecclesiastical parish: Haley Hill All Souls
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Northowram
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 124
Piece: 4137
Folio: 164
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie Menzies 67

the sisters in 1851?

1851 England Census about Lissie Mengeis
Name: Lissie Mengeis
[Lissie Menzies]
[Jessie Menzies]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Sister
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 119
Piece: 2298
Folio: 703
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara L Mengeis 20 - Housekeeper
Lissie Mengeis 17
Alexander Mengeis 15 - brother
Archibald M Mengeis 10 - brother
.....................................................................

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Clara Louisa Menzies
Name: Clara Louisa Menzies
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1831
Father's Name: John Menzies
Mother's name: Mary Anne Menzies
........................................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Clara Louisa Menzies
Name: Clara Louisa Menzies
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1880
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Halifax
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 311

Thanks for the above. John's first wife died in 1844 and it looks as though Nancy is his second wife. I appreciate everyone's help, as always. :-)

1841 England Census about Clara Merdgies
Name: Clara Merdgies
[Clara Menzies]
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Halifax
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1300
Book: 2
Folio: 11
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
John Merdgies 35 - Nurseryman (born S.= Scotland)
Mary Merdgies 35
Robert Merdgies 12
Clara Merdgies 10
Jessy Merdgies 8
Alexr Merdgies 6
Archibald Merdgies 2
Peter Merdgies 16 - M S (born S)
........................................................................

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Archibald Appleby Menzies
Name: Archibald Appleby Menzies
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 21 May 1839
Father's Name: John Menzies
Mother's name: Mary Ann Menzies
.......................................................................

West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910 about Alexander Menzies
Name: Alexander Menzies
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1835
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Baptism Date: 1 Sep 1835
Father's Name: John Menzies
Mother's name: Mary Ann Menzies

Name: John Menzies (occ. Gardener)
Marriage or Bann Date: 28 Apr 1828
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Spouse's Name: Mary Anne Appleby

John's second Marriage.

Name: John Menzies Widower, Gardener
Age: Full Age
Marriage or Bann Date: 23 Jan 1851
Parish: Halifax, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: Robert Menzies, Farmer
Spouse's Name: Nancy Smith Widow
Spouse's Father's Name: Naylor Bentley, manufacturer


Witnesses look like James Backhouse and John Thomas.

John Menzies signed and Nancy Smith made her mark.

Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
Angus William Gateshead 22 142
Atkinson Sarah Halifax 22 142
Fielding John Halifax 22 142
Laycock Joseph Halifax 22 142
Leah Thomas Halifax 22 142
xxxx Menzies John Halifax 22 142
Ramsden Betty Halifax 22 142
xxxx Smith Nancy Halifax 22 142
Wilson Betty Halifax 22 142

Thanks everyone, I see from freebmdJessie died 1916, any chance someone could check Ancestry as for the will/probate. I don't suppose John will have had a will as I can't imagine gardners earning much.

Name: Jessie Menzies
Probate Date: 7 Oct 1916
Death Date: 17 Sep 1916
Death Place: Halifax, West Yorkshire, England
Registry: London, England


Jessie of 30 Salisbury Place, Spinster d. 17 October 1916. To Arthur Appleby Menzies, chartered accountant and Louis Edward Menzies, solicitor. Effects £2, 738. 6s 1d.

Thank you so much

1901

Name: Louis Edward Menzies
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Arthur A Menzies
Mother's name: Elizth Menzies
Gender: Male
Where born: Prescot, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Whiston
Ecclesiastical parish: Rainhill St Anne
Town: Whiston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Piece: 3516
Folio: 49
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur A Menzies 49
Elizth Menzies 48
Louis Edward Menzies 22
Arthur Appleby Menzies 21
Edith Menzies 17
Harold Menzies 14
Phoebe Hankey 24
Florence Finch 17

1911

Name: Louis Edward Menzies
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Prescot, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Staplands Road Broad Green Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Solicitor
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: West Derby Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Piece: 22649
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Edward Menzies 32
Blanche Beatrice Menzies 30
Louis Forbes Menzies 7
Edith Beryl Menzies 3
Arthur Wilton Menzies 1
Rose Gough 25
Elizabeth Wardcock 27

Seeing Arthur on the Summary book for 1911 but not the census

Name: Arthur Appleby Menzies
Number of Males: 1
Number of Females: 3
Household schedule number: 12
Street Address: The Holt
Civil parish: Whiston
Ecclesiastical parish: Rainhill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Residence Year: 1911
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: Prescot
Sub-Registration District Number: 4
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1332

1911

Name: Arthur Appleby Menzies
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Whiston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Holt Hill Whiston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Chartered Accountant
Registration district: Prescot
Registration District Number: 456
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 22737
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Appleby Menzies 59
Elizabeth Menzies 58
Alice Blease 26
Dorothy Adeline Owen 17

1871

Name: Arthur A Menzies
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robt H Menzies
Mother's name: Frances Menzies
Gender: Male
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Prescot
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 55
Piece: 3861
Folio: 8
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Robt H Menzies 42 Accountant, b. Yorkshire
Frances Menzies 40
Arthur A Menzies 19
Alexander Menzies 15

1851

Name: Robert Hy Menzies
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Menzies
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Halifax
ED, institution, or vessel: 1gg
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 2298
Folio: 736
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hy Menzies 22
Frances Menzies 20