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Hi Reggie, no I have not lost interest but I thought my comment about Zachariah being a different family had ended the thread and over the weekend we had family visiting and briefly the living take precedence over the dead!
I am most grateful for your find of another grandson Francis, who is with the same family. At least a birth certificate for him is possible though he is not in the direct line I am researching.
When I was trawling through Family Search I came across other potential children but their place of birth was slightly moved from Thornton but not far :-

name: Elizabeth Wardell
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 31 Oct 1816
baptism/christening place: St. Michael's, New Malton, York, England
father's name: Francis Wardell
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C02214-2

name: John Wardell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 15 Mar 1818
baptism/christening place: EBENEZER CHAPEL SAVILLE STREET-INDEPENDENT,NEW MALTON,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date: 27 Feb 1818
father's name: Francis Wardell
mother's name: Mary Haddleston
indexing project (batch) number: C08787-1

name: William Wardell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 31 Jul 1831
baptism/christening place: WYKEHAM, NR. MALTON, YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Francis Wardell
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C04165-2

It seems from your 1841 census that William was correct. I also found a marriage that could suit the family but again slightly out of area :-

groom's name: Francis Wardell
bride's name: Mary Huddlestone
marriage date: 12 Apr 1812
marriage place: Seamer Near Scarborough,York,England
indexing project (batch) number: M10618-2

Have you any ideas on how one can establish the link?

1851 England Census

Name: Hannah Wardell
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Wardell
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Scarborough
Town: Scarborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Filey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 2368
Folio: 284
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Wardell 59......................born Pickering
Hannah Wardell 23
Francis Wardell 2.......grandson

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Deaths Jun 1841 (>99%)

Wardell Francis Holliday Pickering 24 309

The 1841 Census for England was taken on the night of 6 June 1841.

1841 England Census

Name: Hannah Wardell
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Pickering
Hundred: Pickering Lythe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Pickering
Sub-registration district: Pickering
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1261
Book: 5
Folio: 45
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Wardell 45
Hannah Wardell 13
William Wardell 9

name: Hannah Wardell
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 06 Jul 1827
baptism/christening place: THORNTON DALE,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Francis Wardell
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C10859-1


name: James Wardell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Mar 1822
baptism/christening place: THORNTON DALE,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Francis Wardell
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C10859-1


name: Thomas Wardell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 11 Jan 1824
baptism/christening place: THORNTON DALE,YORK,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Francis Wardell
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C10859-1

Did you get back to Mary by purchasing her marriage cert, and finding her father's name to be Francis?

Reggie my original starting point was :-

name: Mary Ann Wardell
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 21 Feb 1820
baptism/christening place: THORNTON DALE,YORK,ENGLAND
father's name: Francis Wardell
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C10859-1

You mentioned a MARY.....where was she born?

Who was her father?

Thank you Gins and Reggie, your extra info has, alas, put this into a different family, at this time, though of course there could be links if I could only find my way back to them!

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940

Name: Elizabeth Wardell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1838
Age: 24
Father's Name: Zachariah Wardell
Spouse's Name: Charles Severs
Spouse's Age: 27
Spouse's Father's Name: George Severs
Marriage Date: 4 Feb 1862
Marriage Place: York, Yorkshire, England
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Scarr Sever
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 124

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

Name: Zachariah Wardell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1837
Registration district: Malton
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume Number: 24
Page Number: 267

Spouse: Ann SCARR

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Elizabeth Wardell
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1837
Registration district: Malton
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 24
Page: 292

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Jane Backhouse
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1870
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Wetherby
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 90

1841 England Census about Jane Wardell
Name: Jane Wardell
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Acklam
Hundred: Buckrose
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Malton
Sub-registration district: Weston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1210
Book: 1
Folio: 4
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Zachriah Wardell 25
Ann Wardell 25
Elizabeth Wardell 3
Jane Wardell 2

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Jane Wardell
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1839
Registration district: Malton
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 24
Page: 586 (

I think this is what you asked for

1851 England Census about Francis Wardell
Name: Francis Wardell
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Acklam, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Acklam
Town: Acklam
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Malton
Sub-registration district: Rillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Piece: 2369
Folio: 182
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Wardell 68
Hannah Wardell 87
Jane Wardell 11
Francis Wardell 6

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Ann Wardel
Name: Ann Wardel
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 30 Sep 1811
Christening Date: 13 Oct 1811
Christening Place: Acklam, Yorkshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Francis Wardel
Mother's name: Hannah

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about John Wardel
Name: John Wardel
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1806
Christening Date: 20 Apr 1806
Christening Place: Acklam, Yorkshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Francis Wardel
Mother's name: Hannah

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Seth Wardel
Name: Seth Wardel
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1809
Christening Date: 31 Mar 1809
Christening Place: Acklam, Yorkshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Francis Wardel
Mother's name: Hannah


I can see a birth for Zach

Thank you Mike and Andy. This all looks most helpful and needs more earlier research around Zachariah's birth to see if he has the same mother as my ancestor Mary Ann Wardell c.1820.

Trees on Ancestry have Zacariah with parents Francis Wardell and Hannah Swales or Monsley.

Francis 1783-1866

Andy

1851 England Census
about Igaderiah Wardell
Name: Igaderiah Wardell
[Zachariah Wardell]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Wardell
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Acklam, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Acklam
Town: Acklam
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Malton
Sub-registration district: Rillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 2369
Folio: 187
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Igaderiah Wardell 38
Ann Wardell 38
Elizabath Wardell 13
Mary Wardell 9
Alice Wardell 5


Andy

Possible parents to above


groom's name: Zachariah Wardell
groom's birth date: 1814
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 23
bride's name: Ann Scarr
bride's birth date: 1812
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 25
marriage date: 03 Jul 1837
marriage place: Acklam, York, England
groom's father's name: Francis Wardell <<<<<< is this your Francis born 1790
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Scarr