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Samantha
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21 Dec 2012 17:14 |
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Hi,
I think I've found my great great grandfather James Pullen born in 1861 but I need help finding his wife and what her maiden name is.
I know that they had a family who were born in Eastbourne and that his wife's name is Annie but I'm not sure where she is from, what her maiden name is and when she died. Can anyone help please?
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AnnCardiff
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21 Dec 2012 17:16 |
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James H Pullen England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1861 Petworth,? Sussex census: 31 Mar 1901 Eastbourne,? Sussex,? England name: James H Pullen event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 40 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: Petworth, Sussex record type: Household registration district: Eastbourne sub-district: Eastbourne ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary civil parish: Eastbourne county: Sussex
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AnnCardiff
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21 Dec 2012 17:18 |
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Annie M Pullen England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1861 Brighton,? Sussex census: 31 Mar 1901 Eastbourne,? Sussex,? England name: Annie M Pullen event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Female age: 40 relationship to head of household: Wife birthplace: Brighton, Sussex record type: Household registration district: Eastbourne sub-district: Eastbourne ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary civil parish: Eastbourne county: Sussex
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 17:19 |
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Is this them?
1891 England Census about James H Pullen Name: James H Pullen Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie M Pullen Gender: Male Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England Civil parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Eastbourne County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Baker
Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 771 Folio: 46 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age James H Pullen 30 Annie M Pullen 30 - born: Brighton, Sussex James H Pullen 2 Jesse W Pullen 1 Annie C Pullen 2/12 Morris G Pullen 23 - Brother born: Petworth, Sussex ......................................................
Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%) xxx CEAPLEN Annie Maria Eastbourne 2b 113 Holdstock Philadelphia Eastbourne 2b 113 Pavey Edward Eastbourne 2b 113 xxx PULLEN James Henry Eastbourne 2b 113
The birth certificate of one of the children will confirm if this is correct or not!
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ErikaH
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21 Dec 2012 17:20 |
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Look on freebmd for a marriage
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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ErikaH
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21 Dec 2012 17:21 |
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Which of their children was your great grandparent?
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 17:29 |
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Full 1901
1901 England Census about James H Pullen Name: James H Pullen Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Annie M Pullen Gender: Male Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England Civil parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Piece: 879 Folio: 55 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age James H Pullen 40 Annie M Pullen 40 James H Pullen 12 Jesse W Pullen 11 Annie C Pullen 10 Dorothy W Pullen 2 ...................................................
Same family in 1911:-
1911 England Census about James Pullen Name: James Pullen Age in 1911: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Petworth, Sussex Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 131 Wellington Road, Forest Gate Marital Status: Married Occupation: Baker Registration district: West Ham Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration district: Forest Gate ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 80 Piece: 9397 Household Members: Name Age James Pullen 50 Annie Pullen 50 James Pullen 22 John Pullen 15 Dorothy Pullen 12 ..................................................
another version:-
PULLEN, James Head Married M 50 1861 Baker Sussex Petworth VIEW PULLEN, Annie Wife Married23 years F 50 1861 Sussex Brighton VIEW PULLEN, James Son Single M 22 1889 Baker Sussex Eastbourne VIEW PULLEN, John Son Single M 15 1896 Shop Assistant Sussex Eastbourne VIEW PULLEN, Dorothy Daughter F 12 1899 School Sussex Eastbourne
8 children - 5 living and 3 died
.......................can you confirm if this is the correct family?
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 17:35 |
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" If " this is the correct family, then this is a possible death for Annie:-
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Annie M Pullen Name: Annie M Pullen Birth Date: abt 1860 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1923 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 32 ...............................................................................
and a possible for James:-
Deaths Jun 1930 (>99%) Pullen James H 69 W. Ham 4a 267
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 17:45 |
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Yes, I saw that jax so have edited my posting. Silly me!
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Samantha
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21 Dec 2012 18:02 |
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Hi, Yes I think that is all correct.. Reggie: My great grandfather was John Pullen (I never met him.. and he died when my nan was only 6, therefore we don't have much info)
Thanks everyone!!
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MargaretM
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21 Dec 2012 19:01 |
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Possible marriage on FreeBMD:
Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CEAPLEN Annie Maria Eastbourne 2b 113 PULLEN James Henry Eastbourne 2b 113
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MargaretM
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21 Dec 2012 19:04 |
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Birth of Annie?
Births Jun 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CEAPLEN Ann Maria Peirce Brighton 2b 189
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MarieCeleste
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21 Dec 2012 21:02 |
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Don't know if this is your John:
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: John Pullen Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Age at enlistment: 18 Birth County: Sussex Document Year: 1912 Regiment Name: RA (RH & RFA) Number of images: 33
Errand boy, born Petworth.
Married Charlotte Jane Ca****n in Plumstead 10 February 1916. Had a son John William.
There are 33 pages, mostly in poor condition on the images so will wait for confirmation if right chap before ploughing through.
EDIT: Marriage record on FreeBMD shows Charlotte's surname as Calnon
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 21:06 |
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As we seem to have the correct family, then this looks to be earlier census records for James (although you will have to buy the marriage certificate to absotlutely sure, as it will give you father's names and occupations):-
1861 England Census about James Pullen Name: James Pullen Age: 6 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Pullen Mother's Name: Mary Pullen Gender: Male Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England Civil parish: Petworth Town: Petworth County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Petworth Sub-registration district: Petworth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 191 Piece: 611 Folio: 48 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age James Pullen 25 - occupation:- Groom Mary Pullen 23 Jesse W Pullen 2 James Pullen 6 Months ...........................................................................
1871 England Census about James Pullen Name: James Pullen Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Pullen Mother's Name: Mary Pullen Gender: Male Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England Civil parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 101 Piece: 1076 Folio: 130 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age James Pullen 32 - born: Petworth, Sussex, (occupation:- Police Constable) Mary Pullen 32 - born: Petworth, Sussex, James Pullen 10 Frederick Pullen 8 Alice M Pullen 6 Maurice G Pullen 4 Annie Pullen 3 Months ................................................................................
1881 England Census about James Pullen Name: James Pullen Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Petworth, Sussex, England Civil parish: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address: 47 Cheapside
Occupation: Bakers Assistant Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1087 Folio: 36 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age James Tully 35 Mary Tully 38 Alice Tully 10 John Tully 7 Edith Tully 5 Minnie Tully 5 Frederick Tully 1 Robert (Sen) Tully 74 Mary Maker 27 James Pullen 21 George Croft 15 Harriet Box 20
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 21:31 |
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John is with the family in 1911 but wondered where he was in 1901?
This looks to be him:-
1901 England Census about John Tullen Name: John Tullen Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England Civil parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Eastbourne St Mary County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Street Address: Borough Sanitaurium
Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 197 Piece: 879 Folio: 27 Page Number: 45
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Samantha
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21 Dec 2012 21:35 |
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That's fab.. Helps a lot!!
Can anyone find anything on Annie? This is where I'm having problems!! It's like she disappears pre 1890
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Janice
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21 Dec 2012 22:48 |
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This has been corrected to Ceaplen on the 1861 so is possibly connected:
1861
Name: Elizabeth Cerplin
Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1788 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Cerplin Gender: Female Where born: Boreham, Sussex, England Civil parish: Brighton Town: Brighton County/Island: Sussex Country: England Registration district: Brighton Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 148 Piece: 596 Folio: 131 Page Number: 27
Name Age John Cerplin 68 Elizabeth Cerplin 73 Emily Cerplin 18 granddaughter Eliza Cerplin 15 granddaughter
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Janice
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21 Dec 2012 22:51 |
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There's also a William Ceaplin (born Sussex) and wife Elizabeth age 41 and 40 in the 1861.
He's an Inspector with the Met Police living in Westminster.
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 23:00 |
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To be sure about anything you really need to buy the marriage cert. to see who Annie's father was and what his occupation was.
I have a look for potential families, and this is the only marriage I can see up to 1865 for a male Ceaplen anywhere in the country:-
Marriages Dec 1849 (>99%) Aucock Ruth Eastbourne 7 565 Burgess Martha Eastbourne 7 565 xxxxx Ceaplen David Thomas E. Bourne 7 565 xxxxx Godden Harriet Eastbourne 7 565 Morris Edward Eastbourne 7 565 Stephens Charles Eastbourne 7 565 Stretton Sarah Elizabeth Eastbourne 7 565 Tutt Henry Thomas Eastbourne 7 565
................it would fit with a birth in 1860 so may be worth looking into?
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Catherine
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21 Dec 2012 23:04 |
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This looks to be David and Harriet in 1861:-
1861 England Census about David Capelen Name: David Capelen Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Harriet Capelen Gender: Male Where born: Eastbourne, Sussex, England Civil parish: Eastbourne Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Eastbourne Sub-registration district: Eastbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 222 Piece: 567 Folio: 43 Page Number: 49 Household Members: Name Age David Capelen 40 Harriet Capelen 35 Eliza Capelen 11 Fanny Capelen 10 William Capelen 6 Maria Capelen 6 born: 1855 Eastbourne, Sussex, Harriet Capelen 4 Jane Capelen 2 Emily Capelen 1
.................there is a Maria, but no Ann Maria so maybe not the family you are looking for but most certainly a relative.
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