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JoanneDuncan
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30 Dec 2012 01:55 |
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In reply to: The Melbourne Argus of 31st March 1851 has a W. Fordham arriving on the ship 'Pestonjee Bomanjee' from London on 29th March, I have seen this article, however I have not had any success in finding any passenger lists for this ship to confirm if it is my William Fordham, ie. I am trying to find a record to confirm his age of around 16 years or perhaps if it lists who his parents were.
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JoanneDuncan
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30 Dec 2012 01:43 |
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Regarding the book that Jim mentions, I followed this lead and it is not my William. The William from that book never left Tasmania. I even went so far as to contact his family in Tasmania and they also confirmed it was not him. I thought I was so close.
Regarding there's something not right about this record, William John Fordham is William's son. We was actually born in 1883 in Moonambel. Perhaps it was a typing error that has him being born in 1833.
The 1841 English census has him aged 6 living with his parents and siblings at St Edmund King and Martyr Middlesex London. I cannot find him on the 1851 census which is why I think he must have either left London for Australia around that time, which might explain why I cannot find him on the 1851 census.
If he did leave around that time he would have been around 16 years old. Of course he may have lied about his age to get over here in which case he could be 21. I have even searched convict records but a lot of those records do not list parents etc and although there were a few William Fordham's who came out as convicts, I cannot confirm that any of them are mine.
I really cannot find much on this chap and its a pitty as he lived to 88 years of age. I even visited Moonambel where he spent quite a number of years during the gold rush, but they were unable to advise where he moved onto from there.
I shall keep digging and very much appreciate everyone's help.
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29 Dec 2012 19:27 |
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There's something not right about this record, it has his son born before him!
Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 Name: William John Fordham Father's Name: William Fordham Mother's Name: Nazarine Richardson Birth Place: Moonambel, Victoria Registration Year: 1833 ?? Registration Place: Victoria Registration number: 25200
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MarieCeleste
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29 Dec 2012 19:23 |
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Joanne - where was your William on the 1851 English census? What was his occupation?
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MarieCeleste
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29 Dec 2012 19:17 |
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Regarding the book Jim mentions - that would likely be this chap:
Tasmania, Australia, Passenger Arrivals, 1829-1957 Name: William Fordham Arrival Port: Hobart Arrival Date: 22 Feb 1858 Departure Port: London Departure Date: 30 Oct 1857 Ship: Trade Wind Gender: Male Place of Origin: Cambridgeshire Birth Year: abt 1837
Described as a tall, respectable looking young man of about 21, of slight figure. Occupation looks like salesman & shopman.
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Jim The Ferret
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29 Dec 2012 18:45 |
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Australian libraries list the following book.
Title Trade Wind voyage 1858 : diary of William Fordham /? compiled by Patricia Quarry. Author Quarry, Patricia. Published New Town, Tas. : I. Schaffer, 1993. Physical Description 1 v. ; 30 cm. Subjects Fordham, William. -- Diaries. Trade Wind (Sailing ship) Immigrant's writings. Language English
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29 Dec 2012 18:23 |
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Kim
The passenger lists on FMP start in 1890 so not much good for someone leaving in approx 1850
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Kim Annette
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29 Dec 2012 17:41 |
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Have you tried passenger transcript details on find my past... i found my whole dads family as he moved to australia in the 1950's.... good luck
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BeverleyW
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29 Dec 2012 16:47 |
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The Melbourne Argus of 31st March 1851 has a W. Fordham arriving on the ship 'Pestonjee Bomanjee' from London on 29th March . No saying if it your man or not.
www.trove.nla.gov.au
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 16:06 |
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Mary Ann Pierce /Place/ more
More information spouse: (show children) Henry Alexander /Fordham/ birth: 30 October 1832 death: 1 June 1913
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 16:02 |
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Henry Alexander /Fordham/ birth: 30 October 1832 London, England death: 1 June 1913 Sth Melbourne, Victoria, Australia less
More information christening: St Edmund the King and Martyr, Lombard St, London
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 16:02 |
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Frederick Isaac /Fordham/ birth: 1889
Maud Emily /Fordham/ birth: 1877
Ada Alice /Fordham/ birth: 1873
William James /Fordham/ birth: 1871
Henry Alexander /Fordham/ birth: 1868
Mary Lucinda /Fordham/ birth: 1866
Henry /Fordham/ birth: 1863 death: 1868
Robert /Fordham/
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 16:01 |
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PRINTLucinda Susan /Spencer/ - View Individual Summary William /Fordham/ birth: 12 March 1835
Henry Alexander /Fordham/ birth: 30 October 1832 death: 1 June 1913
William Richard /Fordham/ birth: 1831 death: 1835
Elizabeth /Fordham/ birth: 1828
Trath /Fordham/ birth: 1825
Lucinda Susan /Spencer/ more
More informationmarriage: 11 July 1815 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London
spouse: (show children) James /Fordham/ birth: 1797 marriage: 11 July 1815
Additional Information for Lucinda Susan /Spencer/ Citing This Record "Pedigree Resource File", database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S15R-SSW : accessed 2012-12-29), entry for Lucinda Susan /Spencer/.
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 16:00 |
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Lucinda Susan /Spencer/ less
More information marriage: 11 July 1815 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 15:59 |
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William /Fordham/ birth: 12 March 1835 London, England less
More information christening: St Edmund the King and Martyr, Lombard St, London marriage: 29 June 1864 St John, CofE, Latrobe St, Melbourne, Australia marriage: 2 December 1882 Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 15:58 |
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William /Fordham/ 12 March 1835 - View Individual Summary John Joseph /Fordham/ birth: 1876 death: 1876
Joseph /Fordham/ birth: 1875 death: 1875
Mary Ann /Fordham/ birth: 6 June 1873 death: 3 October 1952
Edward /Fordham/ birth: 1871 death: 1960
James /Fordham/ birth: 1870
William John /Fordham/ birth: 1867 death: 24 January 1880
Henry /Fordham/ birth: 1865
Violet Grace /Fordham/ birth: 1899 Ivy Janet Sarah /Fordham/ birth: 1896 Florence Nazarina /Fordham/ birth: 1894 Daisy Evalyn /Fordham/ birth: 1892 David Ernest /Fordham/ birth: 1891 Oliver Samuel /Fordham/ birth: 1889 Gertrude Lucinda Martha /Fordham/ birth: 1887 Albert Francis /Fordham/ William John /Fordham/ birth: 1884 Albert /Fordham/ birth: 1882 death: 1883 William /Fordham/ birth: 12 March 1835 London, England more
More informationchristening: St Edmund the King and Martyr, Lombard St, London marriage: 29 June 1864 St John, CofE, Latrobe St, Melbourne, Australia marriage: 2 December 1882 Fitzroy, Victoria, Australia
spouse: (show children) Mary /Cummins/ birth: 1846 marriage: 29 June 1864 death: September 1881
spouse: (show children) Nazarina /Richardson/ marriage: 2 December 1882
James /Fordham/ birth: 1797 London, England Lucinda Susan /Spencer/ James /Fordham/ Lydia // Additional Information for William /Fordham/ Sources (1) 1.MARRIAGE/FORDHAM WILLIAM/CUMMINS MARY/1864/1334 VICTORIAN BDM'S
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Citing This Record "Pedigree Resource File", database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S155-KYC : accessed 2012-12-29), entry for William /Fordham/.
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 15:56 |
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William Fordham England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 12 Mar 1835 christening: 08 Apr 1835 SAINT EDMUND THE KING AND MARTYR LOMBARD STREET,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND parents: James Fordham,? Lucinda Susan
name: William Fordham gender: Male baptism/christening date: 08 Apr 1835 baptism/christening place: SAINT EDMUND THE KING AND MARTYR LOMBARD STREET,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND birth date: 12 Mar 1835 father's name: James Fordham mother's name: Lucinda Susan indexing project (batch) number: C00168-2 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 535723
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 15:54 |
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best really if you stuck to the one posting and continued with that one :-)
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JoanneDuncan
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29 Dec 2012 15:28 |
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Hi I recently posted looking for my ancestor James Fordham. I am also looking for information on his son William Fordham. His details are below:
William Fordham b: 12 Mar 1835 Middlesex London d: 11 Jun 1923 Oakleigh Melbourne Australia
Married: 1st wife Mary Ann Cummins
Children of 1st wife: Henry Fordham William Fordham James Fordham Edward Fordham Mary Fordham John Joseph Fordham Joseph Fordham
Married: 2nd wife Nazarina Richardson
Children of 2nd wife Albert Frank Fordham Gertrude Lucinda Martha Fordham Oliver Samuel Fordham David Ernest Fordham Florence Nazarina Fordham Ivy Janet Fordham Violet Grace Fordham Truth Fordham
I have had absolutely no luck finding out eactly when, why and how William came to be in Australia.
His brother Henry Alexander Fordham also came to live in Australia and I have no details on his journey either.
I presure William came out in the early 1850's as his death certificate (he died in 1923) says that he was in the state of Victoria for 70 years. I have searched all ports of Australia and have not been able to find a confirmed record of his travels. I was hoping there might be some records out there in the UK that might have this information.
William settle for some time in the gold mining town of Moonambel. He had all his children with Nazarina there. He is occupations included: miner and farm labourer.
His parents were James Fordham and Lucinda Susan Spencer. His father James was a chemist. I have no idea why he came to Australia. Did he come alone or with his brother Henry?
Any assistance would be very much appreciated.
Joanne
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