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Peter
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29 Dec 2012 20:53 |
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Hi again,
My ancestor Martha Andrews (c.1815-1890) placed her date of birth as Walton, Cheshire/Lancashire.
I have since found a baptism for her which states her abode as being Over Walton, in the Daresbury Parish, Cheshire (which is on the Wirral, so close to the old Lancashire/Chester bounday). She was baptised in 1808.
I have a lot of information on her family but I am looking for help in search for two sisters:
Ann, born 1806 Elizabeth, born 1816 (both in Walton, Daresbury, Cheshire).
Their parents where:
William Andrews (c. 1787-1831) Betty Gleave (1783-1829)
Their dates of death are from their possible burials in Daresbury.
Your help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Peter
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 21:26 |
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You probably have this already, but never mind:-
Ann Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Ann Andrews event: Christening event date: 30 Mar 1806 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: William Andrews mother: Betty Andrews film number: 1655597 digital folder number: 4011846 image number: 569 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4PL-M86 : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Ann Andrews, 1806
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Elizabeth Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Elizabeth Andrews event: Christening event date: 16 Jun 1811 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: William Andrews mother: Betty Andrews film number: 1655597 digital folder number: 4011846 image number: 626 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4PL-Q58 : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Elizabeth Andrews, 1811.
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 21:49 |
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Ann Andrews England and Wales Census, 1841 birth: 1806 Cheshire census: 1841 Budworth,? Great,? Cheshire,? England name: Ann Andrews event: Census event date: 1841 gender: Female age: 35 birthplace: Cheshire record type: Household registration district: Runcorn sub-district: Budworth, Great civil parish: Budworth, Great county: Cheshire
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 21:51 |
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Betty Gleave England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900 residence: 26 Nov 1805 ,? Daresbury,? Cheshire,? England marriage: 26 Nov 1805 Daresbury,? Cheshire,? England spouse: William Andrews
name: William Andrews event: Marriage event date: 26 Nov 1805 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Male spouse: Betty Gleave digital folder number: 4011846
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 21:55 |
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There's also a brother:-
William Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: William Andrews event: Christening event date: 14 May 1814 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Male age: marital status: father: William Andrews mother: Betty Andrews film number: 1655597 digital folder number: 4011846 image number: 655 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N45V-MZG : accessed 29 Dec 2012), William Andrews, 1814. ............................................................
and other sisters:-
Hannah Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Hannah Andrews event: Christening event date: 07 Nov 1819 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: William Andrews mother: Betty Andrews film number: 1655597 digital folder number: 4011846 image number: 710 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N45J-R5P : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Hannah Andrews, 1819 .......................................................
name: Esther Andrews event: Christening event date: 29 Dec 1816 event place: , Daresbury, Chester, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: William Andrews mother: Betty
film number: 2106348 digital folder number: 004019767 image number: 00832 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FQH3-TVD : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Esther Andrews, 1816.
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AnnCardiff
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29 Dec 2012 21:58 |
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if Martha was born in 1815, how was she baptised in 1808?
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 22:06 |
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Possible death of father, William:-
William Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: William Andrews event: Burial event date: 18 Jan 1831 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Male age: 44y
film number: 1655598 digital folder number: 4018355 image number: 114 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4JT-K3K : accessed 29 Dec 2012), William Andrews, 1831.
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 22:12 |
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Wonder if mother Betty remarried?
1851 England Census about Mary Ann Andrews Name: Mary Ann Andrews [Mary Ann Topham] Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Mark Topham Mother's Name: Bettey Topham Gender: F (Female) Where born: Witton, Cheshire, England Civil parish: Witton cum Twambrooks Ecclesiastical parish: Great Budworth County/Island: Cheshire Country: England
Registration district: Northwich Sub-registration district: Weaverham ED, institution, or vessel: 7c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Piece: 2165 Folio: 371 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Mark Topham 76
Bettey Topham 61 - born: 1790 Witton, Cheshire
William Topham 44 Mark Topham 25 Charles Gorst 66 Mary Ann Andrews 43 ...................................................
1841 England Census about Betsy Topham Name: Betsy Topham Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Female Where born: Cheshire, England Civil parish: Great Budworth Hundred: Northwich County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Northwich Sub-registration district: Northwich Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 120 Book: 17 Folio: 11 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Mark Topham 64 - Sherifs Officer and Auctioneer Betsy Topham 50
also in same house:-
Mark Topham abt 1826 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Charles Porst abt 1797 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire (MS) Sarah Earlam abt 1801 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire (FS) Mary Ann Andrews abt 1809 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire ( Bonnet Maker)
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EDIT:- No, looks like Mark Topham married a Betty Stokes:-
Mark Topham, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Mark Topham event: Marriage event date: 23 Jun 1836 event place: Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, England gender: Male age: 59y
spouse: Betty Stokes film number: 1850240 digital folder number: 4003964 image number: 359 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N42F-QH7 : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Mark Topham and Betty Stokes, 1836.
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Peter
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29 Dec 2012 22:26 |
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Oh you have been very busy!
Well thank you - immediatley you have found more distant aunts and uncles which I have missed!
Now I think you may have found Ann in 1841 - Great Budworth is where Martha Andrews married in 1834. I am sorry for not mentioning it. I only checked just then.
Now, I had taken Martha's baptism as the one in 1808 as her ages fluctuated somewhat dramatically in the census ... it varied a lot from 1806-1816, and she died in 1890 aged apparently 75. So with this, and the fact she was born in Walton, Cheshire/Lancashire (county change also), I decided that the 1808 baptism seemed to fit as it was also close to the old border.
What do you think? I am happy to be corrected and would prefere to have accurate research.
Also, RE a possible remarriage. I have no idea at yet! But I am interested to find out more.
Thank you.
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 22:36 |
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2 possible burials for Betty:-
Betty Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Betty Andrews event: Burial event date: 05 May 1829 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: 46y
film number: 1655598 digital folder number: 4018355 image number: 89 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4JT-F25 : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Betty Andrews, 1829. ......................................................................................................................
Betty Andrews, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: Betty Andrews event: Burial event date: 27 Jun 1826 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: 35y film number: 1655598 digital folder number: 4018355 image number: 52 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4JT-XWB : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Betty Andrews, 1826.
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 22:42 |
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Their marriage:-
Betty Gleave, "England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900"
name: William Andrews event: Marriage event date: 26 Nov 1805 event place: Daresbury, Cheshire, England gender: Male
spouse: Betty Gleave
film number: 1655597 digital folder number: 4011846 image number: 565 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N42X-JZG : accessed 29 Dec 2012), William Andrews and Betty Gleave, 1805.
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Catherine
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29 Dec 2012 22:49 |
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You have Betty as being born in 1783, but there is also this one:-
name: Betty Gleave event: Birth event date: 10 Jan 1788 event place: Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: Thomas Gleave mother: Elizabeth Simpson
film number: 1850182 digital folder number: 4011933 image number: 480 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCSD-88B : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Betty Gleave, 1788. ................................................................................
name: Betty Gleave event: Christening event date: 10 Feb 1788 event place: Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, England gender: Female age: marital status: father: Thomas Gleave mother: Elizabeth film number: 1850182 digital folder number: 4011933 image number: 481 Citing this Record
"England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NCSD-FS9 : accessed 29 Dec 2012), Betty Gleave, 1788.
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