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Thanks a lot Chris, all the children were christened at St. Nicholas so I think there's a good chance that those two deaths are my Abraham and Catherine. Also ties in with the fact that I haven't been able to find the children living together as a family in any census.

Looks like the last child William might have died an infant too..

I am descended from Catherine b. 1808 who married in Coventry so possibly they moved there.

Thank you also Vera, I have come to the same conclusions. It looks like Abraham is going to be untraceable without any idea of where he was born even though now I have an approximate date for his birth.

Beverley

I would think more than likely the children have not been transcribed. I have looked for a death for a Catherine Matthews between 1796 when James was born and 1806 when Maria was born but nothing showing.

I agree that the Abraham Matthews/Elizabeth Harrison likely to be a different family and there are large gaps in their production of children also

Couldn't find a birth for Abraham in Kenilworth although there is a one that fits for the Abraham above in Bedworth..

Vera

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MATTHEWS Abraham 1830 1772 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Caroline 1833 1754 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Catherine 1815 1770 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Emma 1837 1825 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Jane 1815 1794 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Marmaduke 1840 1782 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Mary 1837 1791 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Richard 1821 1818 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Sarah 1832 1820 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS Thomas 1836 1752 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS William 1814 1791 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATTHEWS William 1815 1815 Kenilworth Warwickshire
MATHEW Joseph 1850 1850 Kenilworth Warwickshire

(just above, if they fit anywhere!)

Chris :)

First name(s): Catherine
Last name: MATTHEWS
Date of burial 5 Nov 1815
Age at death: 45
Calculated year of birth: 1770
Place of burial Kenilworth
Dedication: St Nicholas
County: Warwickshire
Kenilworth St Nicholas:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage 1813 - 1851

First name(s): Abraham
Last name: MATTHEWS
Date of burial 12 Mar 1830
Age at death: 58
Calculated year of birth: 1772
Place of burial Kenilworth
Dedication: St Nicholas
County: Warwickshire


(other one) http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

County Warwickshire
Place Bedworth
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 27 Nov 1786
GroomForename Abraham
GroomSurname MATTHEWS
GroomAge
GroomParish Bedworth
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Elizabeth
BrideSurname HARRISON
BrideAge
BrideParish Bedworth
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Thomas
WitnessOneSurname HARRISON
WitnessTwoForename William
WitnessTwoSurname COURT
Notes Banns. Both signed X
FileNumber 15502

Thank you Ann, I had all that information about the children from familysearch.
I saw the Bedworth family, I don't think it is the same one, though more than likely related. The Bedworth Abraham is still alive in 1841 with wife Elizabeth and hasn't moved from Bedworth.
Vera, your finding of Abraham a widower remarrying in 1821 is interesting, this one could well be the same man. Doesn't solve the mystery of the unaccounted-for ten year gap though :-(


Thank you both

Beverley

An addition to Ann's post for the same children found on Warwickshire Parish Records is that Abraham is a Weaver.

The only children I can find between James 1796 and Maria in 1806 are born to another couple

Abraham and Elizabeth
3 children Ann bap 1803 aged 9 years in Bedworth, Mary bap 1803 aged 6 Bedworth and Elizabeth bap 1803 aged 3 years Bedworth. So that makes Ann born 1794 which doesn't fit with James' birth.

There is another child born in 1822, Sarah. Parents Abraham and Mary. Abraham is a Weaver.

There is a marriage for Abraham Matthews to Mary Grainger on the 16/04/1821 at Kenilworth. Abraham is a Widower. Witnesses Joseph and Elizabeth Matthews.

Vera

County Record Office - parish registers and census returns, K ...
County Record Office - parish registers and census returns ... Welcome to Warwickshire County Council ... KENILWORTH, St Nicholas: 1630-1993: 1630-1977: 1630-1951
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County Record Office - parish registers and census returns ...
County Record Office - parish registers and census returns ... K-L, Kenilworth to Loxley: For parishes within ... Map showing Civil Parishes in Warwickshire - pdf, 639kb
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in case this comes in useful later on


Indenture between Thomas Mathews and his wife, and Thomas Muston and Thomas Sugar, concerning a tenement and land in Kenilworth. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240889 28 April, 1678



Settlement after marriage of Thomas Mathews of Kenilworth and Sarah his wife, of premises in Kenilworth. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240890 29 April, 1678



Lease for six months from Thomas Mathews to Thomas Mann, of premises in Kenilworth and Stoneleigh. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240891 3 November, 1679



Conveyance from Thomas Mathew to Thomas Mann, of premises in Kenilworth and Stoneleigh. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240892 4 November, 1679



Bond signed by Thomas Mathews in favour of Thomas Mann of Kenilworth, for performance of covenants in an indenture of same date. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240893 4 November, 1679



Indenture between Thomas Mathew and others, and John Wigston concerning land and tenements in Kenilworth, Stoneleigh and Hill Wootton. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240894 20 December, 1679


Lease for a year from Thomas Mathew and Robert Hudson, to Thomas Pratt, of land in Kenilworth. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240900 30 September, 1697



Release from Thomas Mathew and Robert Hudson, to Thomas Pratt, of land in Kenilworth. MS 3117/ACC 1913-005/240901 1 October, 1697



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... settlement of Mr & Mrs T. Matthews of Kenilworth ... 005/240862 5 January, 1796 ... of a tenement and land in Kenilworth, Thomas Howes the elder being demandant, James ...
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presume this is the one you don't think is him?

name: Abraham Mathews
gender: Male
christening date: 05 Jan 1766
christening place: BEDWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: John Mathews
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C03984-3
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555453, 555454

name: Abraham Mathews
spouse's name: Catherine Scrivenor
event date: 25 May 1795
event place: Berkswell,Warwick,England
indexing project (batch) number: M03986-2
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 428965

name: Cath. Scrivenor
gender: Female
christening date: 09 Dec 1772
christening place: BERKSWELL,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: Tho. Scrivenor
mother's name: Eliz.
indexing project (batch) number: C03986-2
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 428965

name: Maria Mathews
gender: Female
christening date: 28 Sep 1814
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date: 29 Apr 1806
father's name: Abraham Mathews
mother's name: Catherine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

name: John Mathews
gender: Male
christening date: 28 Sep 1814
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date: 30 Mar 1812
father's name: Abraham Mathews
mother's name: Catherine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

name: Catherine Mathews
gender: Female
christening date: 28 Sep 1814
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date: 28 Dec 1808
father's name: Abraham Mathews
mother's name: Catherine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

name: William Mathews
gender: Male
christening date: 28 Sep 1814
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date: 01 May 1814
father's name: Abraham Mathews
mother's name: Catherine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

name: Ann Mathews
gender: Female
christening date: 28 Sep 1814
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND
birth date: 05 Aug 1810
father's name: Abraham Mathews
mother's name: Catherine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

name: James Matthews
gender: Male
christening date: 02 Oct 1796
christening place: KENILWORTH,WARWICK,ENGLAND :
father's name: Abraham Matthews
mother's name: Catharine
indexing project (batch) number: C04229-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 555347, 555348

Could someone be kind enough to help with my 5xgreat grandparents in Kenilworth, please.
Abraham Matthews and Catherine Scrivener married in Berkswell on 25th May 1795.
She was from Berkswell, I haven't been able to find a baptism record for Abraham yet except for one in 1766 whch I don't think is the right man.
First child James born in Kenilworth in 1796.
Then there is a ten-year gap until another lot of children born:
Maria 1806
Catherine 1808
Ann 1810
John 1812
William 1814
all born in Kenilworth (source, familysearch).

Now it's just not reasonable to think that there was a ten year gap between the first and second children. So the possibilities seem to be
1 - Catherine Scrivener died and Abraham married again - to another Catherine. I can't find another marriage for him or the death of a Catherine Matthews in Kenilworth.
2 - They left the area and later returned.
3 - There were more children but the baptism records are not transcribed on familysearch.
4 - There were two Abraham Matthews both married to Catherines in Kenilworth (not very likely).
Hoping that the Warks. parish records may throw some light on the subject, all assistance gratefully received.
Thanks
Beverley

Edit -
I have to get off now but will check in in the morning, thank you
Beverley