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thank you all, christina i think that is the missing piece of evidence
now i just need to find out what happened to williams father b approx 1823????

There's another Croydon marriage witnessed by your William Smith.

This one is for Lucy Elizabeth Smith b.1850 marrying William Battis in 1877.

So it looks likely that the family and marriage mentioned above by Maddie and Chris Ho could be right.

EDIT: Just realised that although the transcript says Lucy married William Battis, the name is really William Baker. Same as the witness to William and Sarah's wedding.

This 1891 census ties her in nicely as being the same one on the 1851 census.

1891 census transcription details for: 13, Tait Road, Croydon
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National Archive Reference:

RG number: RG12
Piece: 592
Folio: 120
Page: 19
Reg. District: Croydon
Sub District: Croydon
Parish: Croydon
Enum. District: 40
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough: Croydon
Address: 13, Tait Road, Croydon
County: Surrey

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BAKER, Wm Head Married M 47 1844 Plate Layer
Worth, Sussex
BAKER, Lucy Eliz Wife Married F 40 1851
Cambridge
BAKER, Walter Son M 13 1878 Telegraph Clerk
Croydon
BAKER, Alfred Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Croydon
BAKER, Eliz Annie Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Croydon
BAKER, Chas Robert Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Croydon
BAKER, Francis Edith Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar
Croydon
BAKER, Lily Maud Daughter F 3 1888
Croydon
BAKER, Fredk John Son M 0 (5M) 1891
Croydon

Name: Lucy Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1851
Christening Place: TOFT, CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Smith
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13572-5
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1040559
Reference ID: - 2:37PCT36 Name: Lucy Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1851
Christening Place: TOFT, CAMBRIDGE, ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Smith
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13572-5
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1040559
Reference ID: - 2:37PCT36

(abode as Thornton Heath on below, if him)

Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987
Name: William Smith
Birth Year: abt 1817
Burial Age: 49
Burial Date: 9 Aug 1866
Archive Provided Parish: West Croydon, Christ Church

Chris :)

thanks all.
it looks as if im on a new track ie william smith snr from huntingdonshire. trouble is i cant find them in the 1861 census despite all combinations i put in. any suggestions pleaseeeeee
kevin

Baptism
County Huntingdonshire
Place Hilton
Church St Mary Magdalene
RegisterNumber 37
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 07 Dec 1817
Forename William
Sex M
FatherForename Henry
MotherForename Elizabeth
FatherSurname SMITH
MotherSurname
Abode Hilton
FatherOccupation Farmer

(possible, from below)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

(no luck as yet 1861!)

still no luck in the 1861 census, rootschat helped me find 2 other children who both died but any suggestions to how they avoided the census?
thanks for all your help again
kevin