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cain aldemus smith

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Shirley

Shirley Report 17 Apr 2017 14:54

hi
can anyone help find what happened to the above child born in 1845 in burnley lancashire to smith smith and mary salmon. I cant seem tofind a marriage or a death for him. Could anyone see if he was on any of the census, maybe 1851 or 1861 ?
thanks :-)

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Apr 2017 15:03

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Name: Arbatas Smith
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's name: Smith Smith
Mother's name: Mary Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6l
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Piece: 2251
Folio: 514
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Smith Smith 37
Mary Smith 32
Elizabeth Smith 9
Hannah Smith 7
Arbatas Smith 6
Joseph Smith 4
Eller Smith 2

Andy

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2017 15:03

A tree on ancestry has this


Cain Aldemus Smith
Birth: 21 May 1845 - Lancashire, England
Death: 1851 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
Parents: Smith Smith, Mary Salmon

Andrew

Andrew Report 17 Apr 2017 15:04

Birth???

SMITH, URBANUS SALMON Order
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 21 Page 247

Andy

malyon

malyon Report 17 Apr 2017 15:12

his death
Urbanus Smith
England, Lancashire, Parish Registers 1538-1910
birth:
1845

burial:
6 October 1851
St Peter's Church, Burnley, Lancashire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2017 15:15

This must be what they have picked up

Deaths Dec 1851
SMITH Urbanus Burnley 21 168

The gro lists it as this

SMITH, URBANNS 6 (age)
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 21 Page 168

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Apr 2017 15:27

not with family in 1861
21, Rodney Street, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Smith Smith Head Married Male 46 1815 Cordwainer Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Mary Smith Wife Married Female 43 1818 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Cotton Factory Operative Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Hannah Smith Daughter - Female 17 1844 Cotton Factory Operative Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Joseph Smith Son - Male 14 1847 Cotton Factory Operative Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Thomas Salmon Visitor - Male 9 1852 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Harriet A Salmon Visitor - Female 6 1855 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Sarah Marrey Visitor - Female 21 1840 Cotton Factory Operative Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Rodney Street, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Smith Smith Head Married Male 37 1814 Shoemaker Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Mary Smith Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Hannah Smith Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Arbanas Smith Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Joseph Smith Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Ellen Smith Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Burnley, Lancashire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Apr 2017 15:28

to go with Shirleys find

Burial: 6 Oct 1851 St Peter, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Urbanus Smith -
Age: 6
Abode: Rodney St ----------------------------------
Notes: Romanist
Buried by: J. Barsdley
Register: Burials 1845 - 1852, Page 371, Entry 2964
Source: LDS Film 1517795

Shirley

Shirley Report 17 Apr 2017 15:50

oh dear,,that explains it then....think as far as can tell, only hannah , my relative made it to marriage age ,,,surviving until 1921 ...cant find marriages for the other children . thanks for that. i found smith smith burial in 1862 and wife same year a month before , relatively young for even those days., possibly both had same illness perhaps .
hannah had two marriages but only two of her four children lived long enough to marry , abel duxbury and pathinea. abel was the only one who survived past middle age . :-S
thanks for the great info

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Apr 2017 16:11

maybe Elizabeth
Marriage: 2 Jan 1864 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Josephum Poulton - Burnley
Elizabeth Smith - Burnley
Groom's Parents: Jacobi Poulton & Mariae Poulton
Bride's Parents: Smith Smith & Mariae Smith
Witness: Gulielmus Smith; Maria Bridge
Married by: Thomas J Flanagan, M R
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1874, Page 63
Source: Original Parish Register

Cheapside, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Gorge Rowcliffe Head - Male 60 1811 - Lancashire, England
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James Rowcliffe Son - Male 40 1831 - Lancashire, England
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Mary Stevenson Servant - Female 52 1819 - Lancashire, England
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Susanah J Reddle Servant - Female 20 1851 - Cornwall, England
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Mary Moorhouse Servant - Female 68 1803 - Sussex, England
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Parker Blakey Servant - Male 33 1838 - Lancashire, England
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Joseph Poulton Servant - Male 31 1840 - Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Poulton Servant - Female 29 1842 - Lancashire, England
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Margret Poulton - - Female 1 1870 - Lancashire, England

1881
Road Side, Barrowford, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Poulton Head Widow Female 40 1841 Laundress Burnley, Lancashire, England
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John Poulton Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Margreat Poulton Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Albert S Poulton Son Single Male 0 1881 - Barrowford, Lancashire, England

1901
86, Gisburn Road, Barrowford, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Elizabeth Poulton Head Widow Female 60 1841 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
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John Poulton Son Single Male 32 1869 Cotton Weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Alfred S Poulton Son Single Male 20 1881 Mineral Water Assistant Barrowford, Lancashire, England
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William Gallery Son-In-Law Married Male 37 1864 Cotton Twister Carlisle, Cumberland, England
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Margaret Gallery Daughter Married Female 31 1870 Cotton Weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Joseph Gallery Grand Son - Male 1 1900 - Barrowford, Lancashire, England


Burial: 5 Jun 1878 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Joseph Poulton -
Age: 39yrs
Abode: St James St
Grave: 90
Gender: M
Register: Burials 1873 - 1879, Page 214, Entry 18561
Source: Original Registers Book 3

Shirley

Shirley Report 17 Apr 2017 16:12

just discovered that elizabeth, hannah and cain aldemus smith,s sister did marry, to a joseph poulton in 1864. Jpseph diedin 1878. Just wondering what happened to elizabeth smith/poulton after this? cant find a death or marriage . :-)

malyon

malyon Report 17 Apr 2017 16:12

Name
Joseph Smith
Event Type
Marriage
Registration Quarter
Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year
1865
Registration District
Burnley
County
Lancashire
Event Place
Burnley, Lancashire, England
Volume
8E
Page
260
Line Number
39
 
Joseph Smith probably married one of the following people
Name
James Barnes
Name
Susannah Porrett
Name
Margaret Smith

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Apr 2017 16:22

JOSEPH ???
Marriage: 26 Jan 1873 St Mary of the Assumption, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Josephum Smith - Burnley
Martham Pollard - Burnley
Groom's Parents: Smith Smith & Mariae Smith
Bride's Parents: Procter Pollard & Mariae Annae Wilson
Witness: Josepho Salmon; Elizabeth Poulton ------------------------------------
Married by: Georgius Richardson, M C
Register: Marriages 1856 - 1874, Page 149
Source: Original Parish Register

1881
16, Howarth Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Smith Head Married Male 33 1848 Cotton Warp Beamer Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Martha Smith Wife Married Female 32 1849 Cotton Cop Winder Burnley, Lancashire, England

1891
Haslam Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire, England

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Joseph Smith Head Married Male 43 1848 Throstle Overlooker Burnley, Lancashire, England
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Martha Smith Wife Married Female 41 1850 Housewife Burnley, Lancashire, England
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James Smith Son - Male 13 1878 Weaver Cotton Newchurch, Lancashire, England
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Joseph Smith Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Newchurch, Lancashire, England
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Martha Smith Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Burnley, Lancashire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2017 16:25

1891census

Name: Elizabeth Poulton
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrowford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Barrowford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3382
Folio: 16
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Poulton 50
John Poulton 22
Alfred Poulton 10
Maggie Poulton 21 daughter
William Galley 27 son in law
Class: RG12; Piece: 3382; Folio: 16; Page: 28; GSU roll: 6098492

1901 census
Name: Elizabeth Poulton
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrowford
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Ecclesiastical parish: Barrowford St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:86 Gisburn Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3890
Folio: 57
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Poulton 60
John Poulton 32
Alfred S Poulton 20
William Gallery 37
Margaret Gallery 31
Joseph Gallery 1

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Apr 2017 16:29

death
Name: Elizabeth Poulton
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Burnley
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 174

Shirley

Shirley Report 17 Apr 2017 16:37

thankyou so much..i have lots to go on now. brilliant research.
thanks again
shirley :-D :-) :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Apr 2017 16:49

MARGARET
Last name POULTON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1887
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ MARGARET POULTON married
William Gallery
District Burnley
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8E
Page 422
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

1911
86 Gisburn Road Barrowford Nelson, Barrowford, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
William Gallery Head Married Male Cotton Twister 47 1864 Born in Carlisle Cumberland
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Margaret Gallery Wife Married Female - 41 1870 Born in Burnley Lancashire
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John Paulton Brother Single Male Cotton Weaver 42 1869 Born in Burnley Lancashire
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Joseph Gallery Son - Male School 11 1900 Born in Barrowford Lancashire