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Annie Townsend b.c.1862/ WILTON census please

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2021 15:48

In case you still haven't accessed the GRO site, this is the link........

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Annie's children from that site - to show how the results appear

WILTON, JOSEPH MOORE TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 249
WILTON, ANNIE MOORE TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in TRURO Volume 05C Page 142
WILTON, ELIZABETH JANE TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in LISKEARD Volume 05C Page 47
WILTON, LEONARD MOORE TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in LISKEARD Volume 05C Page 59


COUSINS, ELLEN TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 93
COUSINS, BEATRICE TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1896 M Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 67
COUSINS, ELIZABETH TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 281
COUSINS, KATHLEEN TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 6
COUSINS, EDWARD THOMAS TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in BRISTOL Volume 06A Page 128
COUSINS, VIOLET MAY TOWNSEND
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 64

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 5 Mar 2021 13:38

I'm sorry to say that I still haven't positively found Annie Townsend's roots. However I did read in the newspaper articles about the fight case in Exeter, that she was proud of her Irish heritage !!!

However the volunteers on this thread have worked so hard. Just in case someone reads this thread in the future .. I have included some paragraphs from Annie's descendant, who has written a three page article covering her story printed in the Bristol Family History Society magazine this month March 2021. Much of the information in her story is already contained in this thread. However I will paste in a few paragraphs, which contain some certificate information.

She was sent a picture of Beatrice Cousins, and was so thrilled to receive it.

......
Very sadly my grandma's mum Annie died aged only 39 years at East Street, St. Paul's, Bristol on 13th December 1904. The certificate said she was the wife of Edward Cousins, general labourer, and he was present at the death. She died of Lymphocarcinoma of the glands of her neck, and exhaustion. It's a mystery why they went back and forth to Bristol and in 1911, Edward was 42, widower, a coal porter, was living in Plymouth (with his daughter Nellie and her son).
So yet again the second family had to live in care homes. Most went by the name Wilton, and I found that two of the girls were sent to live in Canada. They are listed in the Home Children Records in Library & Archives, Canada. A Beatrice Wilton arrived in Montreal in 1909, taken into care by the Diocese of Bristol and sent by the Girls Friendly Society, with references to more information. A Kathleen Wilton aged 11, arrived by the ship "Corsican" from Liverpool to Quebec, 1912, destination Ottawa, sent by the Catholic Emigration Association, again with a reference. A descendant of Kathleen, Shirley Deans, told me that Kathleen married Albert Hobrow, and they are on the 1921 Canadian census with their two daughters, Kathleen aged three, and Viola, aged two. Kathleen Hobrow died in 1926, at a very young age,, once again, though Shirley said she had married into a very loving family. Albert Hobrow was born in London. His father, Arthur had been killed in a terrible accident, in 1906. It was reported in several newspapers, although his name was wrong and spelt HOLBROW.
I wondered if the sisters ever met up again, and I found that on 24th July 1922, Beatrice applied for admission to go to America through Detroit, in Michigan. She was aged 25, a child's nurse from Ontario. People were asked to give a friend or relative in the country they had come from, and Beatrice named "sister Kathleen Hobrow, 6 Jenning, Hamilton, Ontario". She said she intended to stay permanently in America and was quite tall, 5' 8" with brown hair and eyes and was born in Devonshire.
It puzzles me that there are differences in some of the records. On 1921 Canada census Kathleen says she immigrated in 1915. It also puzzles me why she was sent over by the Catholic Emigration Society, as she was Anglican, and also her age was given as 11, in 1912, when she would have been 14. Beatrice also is on the Canada 1921, as a nurse aged 22, and she says she arrived in 1916, so that is different too....
The youngest of Annie's children Edward Wilton, was boarding with a William Taylor, a farm labourer, his wife and two small sons at Alveston. When he married Mary Eliza Jaques in 1932, he had gone back to calling himself Cousins, and named his father as Edward George Cousins (not Edward Thomas Cousins) and he was a policeman. They had two children. In 1939 he had an important job, with the war coming, as an Aero Engine Inspector He died in 1970.

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Mar 2018 10:53

Are you using this site which gives mmn before Q3 1911

https://www.gro.gov.uk

(sorry haven't trawled through all of thread to see if it's been shown)

You need to register, but free to use

The record is there - will not be available via freebmd or commercial sites)

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 5 Mar 2018 10:12

Dea posted above that the mothers maiden name can be found on the GRO site on births, but I couldn't find it. Can you please advise how? Thanks.

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Feb 2018 17:16

Thanks very much dea, thought she might be one of ours.

Dea

Dea Report 12 Feb 2018 16:36

Info freely available on the GRO site:

COUSINS, ALICE MARY mmn = HOEY Order
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 265

Dea x

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 12 Feb 2018 14:54

One more request Please. As certificates are obtained I am pondering the movement of the family between 1891 and 1901.

Can anyone look up the mother's maiden name of this birth and death in Plymouth reg. District ?

Alice Mary Cousins.. Birth and death 4Q 1893 Plymouth .

Thank you .. I hope to come back later and tell the end of the story. It would be nice for you to get a small reward for all your hard work. G :-D

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 14 Jan 2018 18:26

This is so good.
Interestingly, Annie Moore Wilton, the sibling from the first marriage, father Simon, was left in the workhouse 1891.
She later had a relationship with a certain Sam Callaghan , and left him to live with his brother Cornelius Callaghan, b. 1882 Ireland. Cornelius had been adopted out to Canada and returned when aged 20, and set up home with said Annie. Just to add a bit of a story, that I have been told.
You should get a medal for this guys..

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 14:06

We make a good team! Enjoy your afternoon.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Jan 2018 14:00

Could be her, shame no Ship name given on that Record...

Chris :)

(now off for a cuppa in garden centre, lol, will leave you be!)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 13:54

I had thought this might be Beatrice but it's 1910, whereas the record you posted says 1909:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6GN9-83B?i=25&cc=1823240

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Jan 2018 13:50

Yes, looks like Home Children, Canada have good Records I believe...

Chris :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 13:48

Well found Chris- I think its very likely. - Especially for Beatrice as I don't see her on the 1911.

I did wonder if they'd travelled there as part of the Home Children scheme. I had family that were taken into care and taken to Canada.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Jan 2018 13:34

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=83307

(if her above AQ, just after that 1911 perhaps)

Chris :)

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=144313

(Beatrice?)

(can see Kathleen (Outgoing FMP) but not Beatrice, to check age)

Edits (yes, 1910 as Walton)

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=70692

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 13:28

Sadly Kathleen died in 1926, aged just 28:

Death certificate here: (Gives DOB of June 18th 1897- I suspect this is 1 year out)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6GY6-4S?i=1333&cc=1307826

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 13:17

I have a good feeling about the above Kathleen- in 1922 Beatrice Wilton age 25 (born Devon) is travelling from Vermont to visit her sister Catherine Hobrow in Ontario.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DW-1Z9F?i=7625&cc=2185163

I believe the sister Catherine is the above Kathleen Wilton/ Hobrow.
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So it seems to fit:

The Kathleen WIlton that married Arthur Hobrow was the right age and born in Bristol and had a sister Beatrice- all matches info for Kathleen and Beatrice Cousins.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Jan 2018 13:04

Nothing on Beatrice yet, but wondered if this was worth looking at for Kathleen.

I don't think the Kathleen Wilton in 1911 posted on page 1 living in Bath is correct. I suspect that is Cathleen Wilton, daughter of Albert & Selina.

However, if she did go by the name Wilton, then this could be her:

1911:
Name: Kathleen Wilton
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston on Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Street address: Princess Louise Home For Children Girls), Kingston Hill Kingston, Kingston Upon Thames
Occupation: School Girl
Registration district: Kingston
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Then there is this marriage in 1917 in Ontario to Arthur A Hobrow. Kathleen is listed as 19 from Bristol and her parents are not known.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GBT4-NQN?i=839&cc=1784216

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The same couple in 1921- with children Kathleen & Violet:

Name Kathleen Hobrow
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Age 26
Birth Year abt 1895
Birth Place England
Relation to Head of House Wife
Spouse's Name Albert Hobrow
Father Birth Place England
Mother Birth Place England
Year of Immigration 1915
Racial or Tribal Origin English
Province or Territory Ontario
District Hamilton West
District Number 88
Sub-District Ward No 3
Sub-District Number 18
City, Town or Village Hamilton
Street or Township 6 Fanning
Municipality Ward 3
Occupation General
Income 725
Name Age
Albert Hobrow 28
Kathleen Hobrow 26
Kathleen Hobrow 3
Violes Hobrow 2

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jan 2018 19:13

I'll be back onto it tomorrow :)

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 13 Jan 2018 19:12

Yes- that sounds correct, a late 1895 birth registered in 1896.

And just to eliminate- the Kate Cousins/ John Unwin marriage is not correct either.

That Kate remarried in 1933 Loughborough to Walter Wortley- this is her in 1939:

115 Leicester Road , Shepshed U.D., Leicestershire, England

Walter Wortley 05 Jan 1884 Male Stone Quarrier - Heavy Worker Married
Kate Wortley 06 Jan 1891 Female House Work Unpaid Married
Albert Wortley 05 Nov 1934 Male At School Single
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Kathleen Smith (Unwin) 15 Apr 1924 Female Hosiery Transferrer Single
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Gillikins

Gillikins Report 13 Jan 2018 19:07

It was handwritten 1895, but printed registration said 1896, thus the confusion. Probably registered 15 January 1896. Hope that's clear.

So Beatrice (only name) Cousins, 19th November 1895. Father Edward Thomas cousins, mother Annie, Wilton/Townsend., 54 Preston street, Exeter.