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Gran`s death record.

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Tony

Tony Report 21 Feb 2019 09:25

Trying to find my Gran`s death record...Harriet Stones born Nottingham 1882 married to Joseph Fowkes in 1903 in Nottingham.
After his death she married again in 1934 to William Taylor in Nottingham.
My sister thinks she died in the city hospital Nottingham and was put in a poorper`s grave.
Looked on family search and ancestry when it was a free day but still not luck.
Looked under Stones/Fowkes/Taylor.

Tony

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 09:54

Tony
Not being pedantic but the spelling is pauper !

Have you tried FreeBMD

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 09:57

Just posting what comes up to help the search and keep in one place

Harriet Stones
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Nottingham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 755
Records on Page:
Name
Joseph Fowkes

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 09:59


Name: Joseph Fowkes
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 Harold Place Harold Street
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Lace Dresser
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Piece: 20583
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Fowkes 37
Harriett Fowkes 31
George Fowkes 5
Annie Fowkes 3
Jones 37 niece
Alfred Jones 29
Harriett Jones 3
Lizzie Jones 1

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:00

Joseph Fowkes
Death Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Mar 1929
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 640

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:01


Name: Harriett Fowkes
Registration Date: Oct-Nov-Dec 1934
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Spouse: William Taylor
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1124

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:05

Both records are open on the 1939 register so the deaths have been picked up

View 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Harriett Taylor
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1882
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 4
Residence Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 52
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: RMKT
Registration district: 4
Inferred Spouse: William Taylor dob 10.1865
Household Members:
Name
William Taylor occ lace maker retired
Harriett Taylor

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:12

She was c 57 in 1939
Wonder if she passed soon after the registerwas taken

Deaths Mar 1939
TAYLOR Harriet 56 Nottingham 7b 408

Edit. : Nope can't be as the register was taken 29 sept 1939

There's several deaths on freebmd but you would need to calculate whether the ages equate to an 1882 birth year

Dea

Dea Report 21 Feb 2019 10:16

Wasn't the 1939 register taken sometime in September Shirley?

Dea x

EDIT - OOppps - I see that you have added that above now Shirley ;-) :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:30

Yes I thought better check that as I posted it Dea

Realised as soon as I found it was" of course " as I was a London evacuee with my elder brother and sister and her record is open at our foster parents address in Kent . She died in 2001 and her record is opened as well as auntie and uncle

Brothers is closed .he lived next door, he passed in 2001 but was living in Spain so his death won't be picked up

We were evacuated in sept 1939

Mine is still closed thank goodness lol !!!


:-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 10:59

Tony

Does the family have any memories when she was still living.

Something like she was at a wedding and that was 19??

Tony

Tony Report 21 Feb 2019 11:04

Thank you .
i
I think it is Harriet Taylor age 80 vol 3c page 337 in 1964.This seems to be the right date to me.
So do i get the death cert first or look for the grave or cemetery.

Tony

Tony Report 21 Feb 2019 11:06

I have a photo of her in 1959.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2019 11:20

Maybe best to get the cert first, to be sure you have the right one.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2019 11:39

So you know her death will be after 1959

That death you think could be her is two years out as she was born 1882 so would be 82 not 80

But maybe the informant didn't know her correct age

The only way is to get the cert to see if it ties up with her .maybe the informant was family

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Feb 2019 14:18

There are 2 Harriett Stones born Nottinghamshire 1880-1884. Do you recognise the Mother's maiden name?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STONES, HARRIETT WOOLLEY
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 313

STONES, HARRIET MAYO
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 338

If the 1939 register posted earlier is her then the one with mmn Mayo would look to be correct

There is also a Nottingham death aged 84 in 1968 and in 1972 with a birthdate of
6 January but 1885.

All 3 probably show on this site (below) and may give you enough details to decide which if any may be correct -

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

You can buy credit in multiples of £5 and using the advanced search can home in on Nottinghamshire, although there's not that many 1964-1972 to look through. Remember to look for Harriet and Harriett.

Hopefully you'll home in on the right one within 2 strikes. There are 2 cremation register scans at £2 each to look at the details and a burial at £1.50

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Feb 2019 14:47

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Trinity Square, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Stones Head Married Male 29 1862 Cab Driver -
Mary Stones Wife Married Female 34 1857 Lace Hand -
Alice Stones Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Harriet Stones Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar -
Polly Stones Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar -
Harry Stones Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar -
Ada Stones Daughter - Female 3 1888 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

All born Nottingham

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STONES, POLLY MAYO
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 344