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Sarah Moulds lost her husband William Peatman in 1872, they had 10 children, the youngest born in 1871. I can ultimately trace what happened to them all, but I have been unable to find half of them on the 1881 census. The 5 I can trace are either married or live in servants. Those I cannot trace are - John Moulds Peatman b 1855; Thomas b 1857; Jesse Moulds b1862; Mary Elizabeth (known as Elizabeth) b 1868 & Ellen b1871 . Sarah had only one son, William b 1852, living with her in 1881. They were all born in Ropsley Lincolnshire. Where were they all in 1881?

Jesse and Tbomas

he 1881 England Census
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Name: Jesse Realman
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ropesley, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Little Ponton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Foremans House
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Farm Serv Indoor
Registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Piece: 3229
Folio: 48
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Rippin 51
Ann Rippin 46
Thos. Rippin 14
Florence Rippin 11
Bertha Rippin 7
>>>>Thomas Realman 20
>>>>>Jesse Realman17

Andy

Thanks Andrew this looks like it could be 1 down 4 to go. Little Ponton is not far away from Ropsley.

Actually two down. Thomas is there as well.

Actually I think it's 2 down as Thomas is also listed, granted their ages are both a bit out - but with servants that's not unusual.

Andrew, we probably spotted this at the same time , with your typing quicker than mine!

John Peatman 30
Eliza J. Peatman 25
Sarah F. Peatman 5
John W. Peatman 3
Eliza M. Peatman 2
Rose Peatman

living in Barrowby

(from FREREG) married Eliza Jane Morriss 31 May 1875 father William - both John & William shown as labourers
one of the witnesses was Sarah Peatman

LancashireAnn's 1881 again, for details. That's a different John - born in Allington.


John Peatman
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Peatman
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Eliza J. Peatman
Gender: Male
Where born: Alington, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Barrowby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: West Street
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Malster Lab
Registration district: Grantham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Piece: 3234
Folio: 15
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Peatman 30
Eliza J. Peatman 25
Sarah F. Peatman 5
John W. Peatman 3
Eliza M. Peatman 2
Rose Peatman


Allington is 3 miles NW of Grantham.
Ropsley is 5 miles E of Grantham.

This is the birth of the above John born in Allington:

Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
PEATMAN John Newark 15 611

By coincidence his parents were also William and Sarah.


John Perlman
in the 1861 England Census
Name: John Perlman
[John Peatman]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Perlman
Mother's name: Sarah Perlman
Gender: Male
Where born: E Allington, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: East Allington
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Bennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 2481
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Perlman 40
Sarah Perlman 39
John Perlman 10
Alice Perlman 7
William Perlman 4
Jesse Perlman 10/12


John Peatman
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Peatman
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Peatman
Mother's name: Sarah Peatman
Gender: Male
Where born: East Allington, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: East Allington
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Bennington
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 2138
Folio: 142
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
William Peatman 30
Sarah Peatman 29
Sarah Peatman 7
Mary Peatman 4
John Peatman 1 Mo

Think this is John Peatman's marriage.

First name(s) John
Last name Peatman
Sex Male
Age 34
Birth year 1856
Marriage year 1890
Marriage date 11 Feb 1890
Marriage place Ropsley
Residence Ropsley
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Peatman
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Spouse's last name Gregg
Spouse's age 30
Spouse's residence Ropsley
Spouse's father's first name(s) Leonard
Spouse's father's last name Gregg
County Lincolnshire



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Grantham Road, Ropsley, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Emma Parker Head Widow Female 56 1835 Dressmaker Lincolnshire, England
John Peatman Son In Law Married Male 36 1855 Agricultural Labourer Lincolnshire, England
Mary A Peatman Daughter Married Female 36 1855 Charwoman Lincolnshire, England
Charlotte A Gregg Granddaughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Lincolnshire, England
Emma Gregg Granddaughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Lincolnshire, England
Ethel M Gregg Granddaughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Lincolnshire, England
Leonard Peatman Grandson - Male 0 1891 - Lincolnshire, England



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

18, Grantham Road, Ropsley, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

John Peatman Head Married Male 45 1856 Agricultural Labourer Old Somerby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary A Peatman Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England
Leonard Peatman Son - Male 10 1891 - Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England
Lily Peatman Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England
Willie Peatman Son - Male 6 1895 - Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England
Charlotte A Gregg Daughter-In-Law Single Female 20 1881 General Servant Domestic Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England



1911 Census For England & Wales

Ropsley Grantham, Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England

John Peatman Head Married Male 56 1855 Labourer On Farm Lincs Somerby
Mary Ann Peatman Wife Married Female 50 1861 Charwoman Domestic Lincs Ropsley
Lily Peatman Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Retired Domestic Lincs Ropsley
William Peatman Son Single Male 16 1895 Labourer On Farm Lincs Ropsley
John William Peatman Grandson - Male 0 1911 - Lincs Ropsley


and possibly. Think the H should be M.

1939 Register


Council Houses Popsley, West Kesteven R.D., Lincolnshire (Parts of Kesteven),
John H Peatman 1855 15 Mar 1855 Male Farm Labourer Widowed 92 1
John W Peatman 1911 23 Feb 1911 Male Malsters Labourer Married 92 2
Phyllis Peatman 1917 02 Sep 1917 Female Unpaid House Duties Married 92 3
John A Peatman 1936 30 Mar 1936 Male Under School Age Single 92 4



England Deaths & Burials 1538-1991

First name(s) John Moulds
Last name Peatman
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1941
Birth year 1855
Age at death 86y
Burial year 1941
Burial date 21 Apr 1941
Burial place Lincoln, England
Place -
County Lincolnshire


Still can't find him in 1881 though.


EDIT

Could this be him? Age is 24 not 34.


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

?, Little Humby, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

John Henry Smith Head Married Male 60 1821 Farmer 91 Acres Oasby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Smith Wife Married Female 55 1826 - Lincolnshire, England
John Richard Smith Son Single Male 19 1862 Farmers Son Barkston, Lincolnshire, England
>>John Peatman Servant Single Male 34 1847 Farm Servant (Indoor) Ropsley, Lincolnshire, England
Thomas Sellars Servant Single Male 13 1868 Farm Servant (Indoor) Stoke, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Arnett Servant Single Female 73 1808 General House Servant Lincolnshire, England

Ellen's marriage.

First name(s) Ellen
Last name Peatman
Sex Female
Age 20
Birth year 1870
Marriage year 1890
Marriage date 05 Mar 1890
Marriage place Ropsley
Residence Ropsley
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Peatman
Spouse's first name(s) William Richard
Spouse's last name Burton
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's residence Ropsley
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Burton



1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Harrowby Cottages, Harrowby Lane, Harrowby, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

William R Burton Head Married Male 26 1865 Agricultural Labourer Lincolnshire, England
Ellen I Burton Wife Married Female 20 1871 Ropley Lincolnshire, England
Thomas W Burton Son - Male 0 1891 - Lincolnshire, England

Again no trace on the 1881 :-S

Richard Burton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Richard Burton
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1864
Residence Year: 1939
Residence Place: West Kesteven, Lincolnshire (Parts of Kesteven), England
Occupation: Agr Labourer Retired
Schedule Number: 57
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: TJHQ
Registration district: 417./1.
Inferred Spouse: Ellen Burton
Household Members:
Name
Richard Burton
Ellen Burton - 30 May 1871
Sylvia M Lloyd - 25 July 1928, at school
[ also a closed record, another Lloyd ]

The Lloyds are children of Sarah Burton and Thomas Lloyd.


But no help with 1881, I'm afraid.

Alviegal, I think you may be right about the Little Humby census being the missing one for John . I've been doing some digging and there is no John Peatman born around 1847 in Ropsley that would tie up with this census entry. In addition Little Humby is literally just down the road from Ropsley. There are other John Peatman's, including several who are part of the same general family, but their births were in other locations that sound nothing like Ropsley. Note to self to remember to spread the net a bit wider in terms of ages when struggling to find someone on a particular census.

That just leaves me with the issue of where Ellen & Mary Elizabeth were in 1881, someone must have been looking after them at 10 & 13 years old.

I should have said born Ropsley or Somerby, the former being where he grew up, the latter where he was actually born.

Having looked at scans of census document itself on more than one site, the age for John Peatman shown is 24 , not 34, so it is him with his place of birth recorded as where her grew up rather than where he was born.