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John Yates 1785 Wigan

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mgnv

mgnv Report 1 Sep 2019 22:50

Marriage: 2 Feb 1806 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs.
John Yates - (X), Upholland
Jane Glover - (X), Upholland
Witness: Wm. Bancks; John Glover
Married by Banns by: C Wray Curate
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 114, Entry 561
Source: LDS Film 1885690

Marriage: 25 Jan 1808 All Saints, Wigan, Lancs.
John Yates - (X), this town [Wigan]
Jane Appleton - (X), this town [Wigan]
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Margt. Appleton, (X)
Married by Banns by: C D Wray Curate
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 207, Entry 786
Source: LDS Film 1885690

In Jan/Feb 1806, there were 51 marrs at Widan All Saints, and 45 in Jan/Feb 1808.
Wm Bancks is a witness on 50 of these in 1806, and 43 in 1808.
I would term him a "professional witness".

A search at:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/wiganmarriages/
should get the original images - I don't have a sub so can't verify this

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 23:11

Yes I have used this site and I was having a few problems finding the information ? required.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Aug 2019 21:35

Best place to look for Lancashire baptisms/marriages/burials is Lancashire Online Parish Records ............. lancsopc

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

It's free, and that is where Maddie got those records.

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2019 17:11

1841 ???
Name: John Yates
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786 ------------- a tailor
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Upholland
Neighbors:
Piece: 522
Book: 20
Folio: 50
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Yates 55
Elizabeth Yates 20
Edmund Yates 14
Jane Yates 9

Baptism: 17 Dec 1826 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Edmund Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Holland
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: Jno. Bird
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1841, Entry 275
Source: LDS Film 1657546

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Aug 2019 16:55

Not working for me Mark.

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 16:50

Thank you for the above Maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2019 16:36

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Burial: 8 Jan 1841 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Jane Yates -
Age: 56
Abode: Holland
Register: Burials 1825 - 1847, Page 430, Entry 3433
Source: LDS Film 1657555

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Aug 2019 16:21

Baptism: 25 Jun 1820 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane
Abode: UpHolland
Occupation: Taylor
Baptised by: Jno. Bird
Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 179, Entry 1428
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Baptism: 8 Feb 1818 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Ellen Yeats - daughter of John Yeats & Jane
Abode: UpHolland
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: Jno. Bird
Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 125, Entry 994
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Burial: 2 Sep 1819 St Thomas the Martyr, Up Holland, Lancashire, England
Ellen Yates - Daughter of John Yates & Jane
Age: 1
Abode: Upholland
Buried by: Rev. Wiliam Bird Curate
Register: Burials 1813 - 1825, Page 167, Entry 2
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Marriage: 11 Jun 1843 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Henry Pell - (X), 27, Stonemason, Bachelor, Upholland
Elizabeth Yates - (X), 22, Spinster, Upholland
Groom's Father: William Pell, Stonemason
Bride's Father: John Yates, Tailor & Draper
Witness: John Sevill; Ann Pell, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Lomas Curate
Register: Marriages 1842 - 1844, Page 137, Entry 273
Source: LDS Film 1885694

Baptism: 31 Oct 1813 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Sarah Yates - Daughter of John Yates & Jane
Abode: UpHolland
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: Revd. Jno. Bird A.B. Curate
Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 21, Entry 161
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Baptism: 1 Jan 1811 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Richard Yates - first Son of John Yates & Jane (formerly Apperton)
Born: 6 Dec
Abode: Scholes
Occupation: Labourer
Mother's Parents: William & Mary Apperton
Register: Baptisms 1799 - 1812, Page 358
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

Marriage: 25 Jan 1808 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
John Yates - (X), this town [Wigan]
Jane Appleton - (X), this town [Wigan]
Witness: Wm. Bancks; Margt. Appleton, (X)
Married by Banns by: C D Wray Curate
Register: Marriages 1803 - 1812, Page 207, Entry 786
Source: LDS Film 1885690

Baptism: 7 Jan 1787 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Jane Appleton - first Daur. of William Appleton & Mary (formerly Heyes)
Born: 20 Dec
Abode: Woodhouses
Occupation: Weaver
Mother's Parents: James & Margt. Heyes
Register: Baptisms 1779 - 1799, Page 168

Baptism: 26 Jan 1823 St Thomas, Upholland, Lancashire, England
John Yates - son of John Yates & Jane
Abode: UpHolland
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: Jno. Bird
Register: Baptism 1813 - 1825, Page 238, Entry 1897
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Burial: 3 Apr 1823 St Thomas the Martyr, Up Holland, Lancashire, England
John Yates - Son of John Yates & Jane
Age: 3 months
Abode: Upholland
Buried by: Rev. Wiliam Bird Curate
Register: Burials 1813 - 1825, Page 245, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 16:14

Thank you

Rambling

Rambling Report 31 Aug 2019 16:00

Baptism: 17 Dec 1826 St Thomas the Martyr, Upholland, Lancashire, England
Edmund Yates - daughter of John Yates & Jane
Abode: Holland
Occupation: Tailor <<<<<
Baptised by: Jno. Bird
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1841, Entry 275
Source: LDS Film 1657546

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 15:50

It appears to be working greyghost

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Aug 2019 15:48

CAn't get onto Family Search at the moment - Error messages !!

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 15:47

I do have a Alice 1825 a sibling to Edmund. Another Alice died at birth 1820

Rambling

Rambling Report 31 Aug 2019 15:45

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First name(s) Alice
Last name Yates

Gender Female
Birth year 1825
Birth place Wigan Lane
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 20 Nov 1825
Residence Wigan, Lancashire, England
Place Wigan
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Yates
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Mother's last name Yates
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 31 Aug 2019 15:43

Are you sure about the 1841?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Duke Street, Wigan, Lancashire, England

Jane Yates Female 60 1781 Lancashire, England
Alice Yates Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Alice Appleton Female 75 1766 Lancashire, England

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 15:39

Thank you greyghost for your message I will take a look at 1851

greyghost

greyghost Report 31 Aug 2019 15:27

Your link goes to an 1841 census (this version from FMP) not a baptism

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stair Brow, Wigan, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Yates Male 55 1786 Lancashire, England Tailor
Elizabeth Yates Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England
Edmund Yates Male 14 1827 Lancashire, England
Jane Yates Female 9 1832 Lancashire, England
John Nevil Male 15 1826 Lancashire, England

Tailor to Labourer or vice versa is a bit of a change

So which baptism are you looking at.

Have you found him 1851 to give a place of birth and perhaps a more accurate year of birth. Above could make him 55-59 years of age

Mark

Mark Report 31 Aug 2019 14:14

I have a john Yates a Labourer/Tailor of Wigan who married Jane Appleton.

I am wondering if this could be his baptism although looking at the map (Google) it does appear to be quite far away - in my opinion.

The first child of the couple is Richard 1810 of Wigan

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interactive/8978/LANHO107_522_523-0187?pid=5177534&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=VXC7091&_phstart=successSource