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Look up help please

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Stacey

Stacey Report 12 Oct 2019 12:37

Despite just having paid £55 to ancestry I still can’t view an electoral register entry. I also can’t find the same entry on find my past.

Would someone be able to look up the Glamorgan electoral roll for 1929 for Louise Grunnell please?

The full description is Swansea and surrounding areas Wales electoral registers 1839-1966

Failing that could anyone tell me how I might be able to access the register on a pay per view basis?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2019 12:49

This one ?

Louise Grunnell
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: Louise Grunnell
Residence Year: 1929-1930
Street address: LLEWELLYN ROW Tuilleries
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales

Also at Tuilleries is Percy Atkins.

Tuilleries is the name of the house.

But the street is Lydford Avenue on the image - not Llewellyn Row.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2019 12:57

By 1945 she's still there, with Percival R Atkins and Grace G Grunnell.

The house is now listed as 69 Lydford Avenue, but it's the same house.
(In 1929-30 it was next to Plot 70.)

Louise Grunnell
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: Louise Grunnell
Residence Year: 1945
Street address: Lydford Avenue 69
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales

They're still together at that address in 1951.

By 1955 the three of them have moved to 93 Port Tennant Road:

Louise Grunnell
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: Louise Grunnell
Residence Year: 1955
Street address: Port Tennant Road 93
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales


All still together at that address in 1963.

ADDED: Still there in 1964.

Stacey

Stacey Report 12 Oct 2019 12:58

Oh, thank you yet again! Yes that is the one. I’m trying to find out what happened to the pesky Louisa/Louise after she was in Hull in 1924 and then shows up in Swansea in 1936. That was the first time I’d found anything pre 1936 so thanks for that <3

Stacey

Stacey Report 12 Oct 2019 13:02

Interestingly on streetview 69 Lydford Avenue no longer exists.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Oct 2019 13:07

By 1966 the three of them are at 215 Port Tennant Road.

Stacey

Stacey Report 12 Oct 2019 13:29

Thank you

Mary

Mary Report 12 Oct 2019 19:48

A tree on Ancestry has this.
The wife of Percy Richard Atkins died 1926 shortly after louise went to live with him as housekeeper with her daughter Grace who had eye sight problems and was home schooled.

Prior to this louise was a manageress at The Mermaid hotel in Mumbles Swansea this was burnt down and demolished in 1996.

Maryb

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 12 Oct 2019 20:23

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1379756

(above relating)

Chris :)

https://www.swansea.gov.uk/westglamorganarchives

(Archives above would be worth a visit, if possible. Newspapers there, if covered after 1919, up until then Welsh are online. Schools Grace?, any Schools near Lydford Avenue?, they might be able to help at Archives)

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea#Schools


http://www1.swansea.gov.uk/calmview/Overview.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog

(Mermaid, Mumbles)


(below looks to be Death, wife of Percy (Percival) (they also lost a baby Son 1924)

Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------
Atkins Elizabeth E 35 Swansea 11a 1152


(Below person for 1927)

30 May 1927 - Western Mail - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

MERMAID HOTEL, MUMBLES. The Leading Residential and Commercial Hotel. Under Entirely New Management. Adjacent Tennis, Bowls, and Golf. Garage. Inclusive Weekly Terms: 4 guineas. SPECIAL WHITSUNTIdE TERMS. Apply to Manageress. Miss McGuinness...


03 May 1932 - Western Mail - Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

(Mermaid taken over by Miss Billie Spiers)

(also various Adverts for Waitresses, Chambermaids)

(not with Percy Atkins 1928-1929)


(1924 Hull, Yorks.with Albert Edward Grunnell, 21, Lister Street.)

Stacey

Stacey Report 12 Oct 2019 23:47

Thanks all. I’ve found no evidence that she was at the Mermaid Hotel at all but it seems a bit of a specific to be mentioned in the family. I just can’t find any hint of her anywhere between 1925 when she’s on the electoral register with her husband in Hull and then being in Swansea in 1929.
Percy Atkins was a baker and they were both Christadelphians. They’re both buried in the associated independent graveyard.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Oct 2019 12:02

Percy on his own in 1926 - and still at same address, alone, in 1927-28:

Percy Richard Atkin
in the Swansea and Surrounding Area, Wales, Electoral Registers, 1839-1966
Name: Percy Richard Atkin
Residence Year: 1926
Street address: 24 Rhyddings Park Road
Residence Place: Glamorgan, Wales

alviegal

alviegal Report 13 Oct 2019 19:34

LOUISE OLGA
Last name GRUNNELL
Gender Female
Birth day 18
Birth month 5
Birth year 1891
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1971
District Swansea
County Glamorganshire
Volume 8B
Page 3256



1939 Register


69 Lydford Avenue, Swansea C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales


First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Percival R Atkins 10 May 1894 Male Baker Journeyman Widowed 327 1
Louise O Grunnell 17 May 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 327 2
Grace G Grunnell 18 Nov 1921 Female Invalid Single 327 3




England & Wales, Electoral Registers 1920-1932

First name(s) Louisa Gertrude
Last name Grunnell
Year 1924
Season Spring
Polling district or place Myton
Constituency P B of Kingston-Upon-Hull, Central Division
Constituency in full Parliamentary Borough of Kingston-upon-Hull, Central Division
County Yorkshire
Country England
Register type Parliamentary Borough
Archive
The British Library


Sorry to ask, but are they the same person?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Oct 2019 19:44

Yes, see the other 'Thread', link I posted earlier...

Chris :)

(Stacey is looking for her from about 1924, last found on Electoral in Hull, she then turns up in Swansea 1929ish, or before. A Daughter Grace born 1921)

Stacey

Stacey Report 14 Oct 2019 08:06

Hi Chris, that other thread is from me too. I have loads of information on Louisa but just couldn’t see the entry from 1929.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Oct 2019 08:19

(yes, was replying to alviegal, and her question)

Chris :)

(might be you may never know where she was, lol)

Stacey

Stacey Report 14 Oct 2019 08:22

Hi alviegal, yes it’s the same person ?? She seems to have changed her name on a whim. I have no idea where the Olga came from on her death certificate. She’s been difficult to trace at times due to the habit of deciding what she’s called that day.

Stacey

Stacey Report 14 Oct 2019 08:22

Hi Chris, I’ll just ust have to make it up :-D