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I always get myself in a pickle trying to get an address in the census
So can some one get me a name of some one who is living in Berry St Manchester in 1861 Please the family I'm looking for I can't find them in 51 or 61 so I'm thinking if some one can get me a name of some living in that street I could go through them all and may be the roads near
Berry Street could have been changed to Stone St or the other way round

Thank you

Who are you looking for?

Full names, birth years and birthplaces. Also, when exactly were they living at the address you suggest?

Don't forget that a lot of Manchester1851 is not available

30, Berry Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

1861

Edward Gleave, born 1805

19, Stone Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

1861

Philip Wyatt, born 1812

Thank you I'll put his name in

The family I've been looking for is Turner I've been looking for the for a while now but each time no one has found them
They had a Sarah 1854 Berry St and not sure if their other sons Thomas and Joseph were at the same address in 1857 & 1860

Baptism: 12 Mar 1854 St Andrew, Ancoats, Lancashire, England
Sarah Anne Turner - Daughter of Thomas Turner & Sarah Hallam
Abode: No. 7 Berry St. Store Street
Occupation: Spinner
Baptised by: Harry Lloyd Bickerstaffe (curate)
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1860, Page 85, Entry 610
Source: Original Register

Baptism: 20 Mar 1859 St George, Hulme, Lancashire, England
Thomas Turner - [Child] of Thomas Turner & Sarah (formerly Hallam)
Born: 1 Jan 1859
Abode: 7 Stone St.
Occupation: Spinner
Parents Marriage: Cathl.
Baptised by: W. Whitelegge
Register: Baptisms 1853 - 1862, Page 300
Source: LDS Film 2113127

The parents didn't marry until 1855.

Name: Thomas Turner
Birth Year: abt 1833
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1855
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Thomas Turner
Spouse's name: Sarah Hallam
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjamin Hallam

Both living at 4, Peter Street, Ardwick

1851?????????????

Name: Thomas Turner
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Turner
Mother's name: Ann Turner
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 1w
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Piece: 2228
Folio: 433
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Turner 43
Ann Turner 39
Thomas Turner 18
John Turner 17
Mary Turner 12
Harriet Turner 7
Elizabeth Turner 5
Edward Turner 2

Yes that is what I've got but not finding them in 1861 !!

Thanks for the 51 census don't think I've got that

TURNER, THOMAS HALLAM
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 549

TURNER, JOSEPH HALLAM
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 207

Name: Joseph Turner
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1861
Baptism Place: Ancoats, St Andrew, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father: Thomas Turner
Mother: Sarah Turner

Ann is widowed by 1871 - at 13 Berry Street;

Ann Turner
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Ann Turner
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester Lancashire England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 193
Piece: 4042
Folio: 81
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Turner 59
Edward Turner 22
Elizabeth T Turner 24
James France 35 - son-in-law
Richard France 2 - grandson





TURNER, EDWARD mms HOGIN
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 696


TURNER, ELIZABETH mms HOGIN
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 783

TURNER, HARRIET mms HOGIN
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 20 Page 709


Ann Hogin
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ann Hogin
Registration Year: 1838
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 455
Records on Page:
Name
Ann Hogin
Thomas Turner

????

1871

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6B-BFN

1871 census same as 1851 is the right family but Thomas's family Ann is his mother? and Thomas in 1851 is his father

Too many Thomas's

I'm trying to find Thomas and Sarah in 1861 pitty the birth for Joseph didn't have the address

I don't understand that first sentence, Sylann.

[ EDIT: sorry, I think I got confused myself! ]

If the 1851 already posted is the right family, then yes, the parents of Thomas 1833 are Thomas Turner and Ann Hogin.
(Or maybe Ann is his stepmother, as she didn't marry the father Thomas until 1838.)

Then Thomas 1833 married Sarah Hallam in 1855.

Here's your family in 1871, for our reference:

Sarah Ann Turner
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Ann Turner
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 158
Piece: 4042
Folio: 105
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Turner 38
Sarah Turner 36
Sarah Ann Turner 18
Mary Jane Turner 16
Thomas Turner 12
Joseph Turner 11
William Turner 8

Address: 6 Nuns (?) Square

Presumably this is the one safc posted a link to, though I can't be bothered signing into FS to find out!

A tree on Ancestry says this is Sarah Hallam's family (mms Cameron):

Benjamin Hallam
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Benjamin Hallam
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: 1809
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Hallam
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 246
Piece: 2946
Folio: 145
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamin Hallam 52
Ann Hallam 52
Margret Hallam 15
John Thos Hallam 3
Benjamin Hallam 22


HALLAM, BENJAMIN mms CUMERALL
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 20 Page 234

HALLAM, MARGARET ms CAMERON
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 20 Page 224

John Thomas is listed as son, but I think it should be grandson:

HALLAM, JOHN THOMAS -
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 207


This looks like Sarah in 1851 - though it definitely says Hattom on the image:

Sarah Hattom
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Hattom
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Benjm Hattom
Mother's name: Ann Hattom
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: London Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ff
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 153
Piece: 2228
Folio: 144
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjm Hattom 43 - Ireland
Ann Hattom 42
Sarah Hattom 18
Elizath Hattom 16
Benjm Hattom 11
Martha Hattom 9
Margt Hattom 4

Address: 2 Lomas Street (same area of Manchester as Berry Street.)

Incidentally, both Berry Street and Store Street are listed in 1851, so not the same street - but close to each other. Maybe different parts of one street.
In 1851, at 7 Store Street is John Scragg and family.

Thank you for that Sorry for the delay I'll have to have a good look at what I've got and been given. Now I know Ann was a widow in 1871 and I've got the Cameron name to go at/
It's just so annoying when people go missing

Thanks again

??
Benjamin Hallam
in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)
Name: Benjamin Hallam
Marriage Date: 26 Sep 1830
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Spouse's name: Ann Cameran
Archive Roll: 698

Benjamin: bachelor, carder.
Ann: spinster.

Witnesses: Thomas Parry (who is witness to lots of marriages in that church, so not a relation),
and William Huntington (his mark).