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That’s why I asked her to tell us..................

no probs
but still dont know from poster if the brunton one is correct :-(

Maddie -
that man who married Mary Shill isn't the correct one.
He was born in 1868 in Millom.

I've deleted the info I posted earlier about him.

Just for reference -
the birth of the WRONG man:

WILSON, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in BOOTLE CUMBERLAND Volume 10B Page 577

and his sister Barbara, who was on the 1881 census I posted and then deleted:

WILSON, BARBARA ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in BOOTLE Volume 10B Page 657


Your post at 12:37 relates to the 1860 man (mms Brunton) who may perhaps be the one Enna means, but your posts at 13:56 and 11:51 relate to the 1868 man.

My apologies for starting a false trail!

William James Wilson er
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Event Type:
Membership
Event Date:
1918
Borough of Swansea (West division), Glamorganshire, Wales
Register of electors, 1918

with margaret wilson

or
with mary and thomas john

William James Wilson
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Event Type:
Membership
Event Date:
1921
Borough of Swansea (West division), Glamorganshire, Wales
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Register Title:
Register of electors, 1921, pp. 001-137, Spring register

THOMAS JOHN
Last name WILSON
Birth year 1899
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Shill
District Swansea

William James Wilson from tree Tonge & Leaver tree
Record information.
Birth 1860 Manchester Lancashire England
Marriage 1893 Swansea Glamorgan Wales
Residence 1901 Swansea Glamorgan Wales
Death 1934
Record information.
Father William Wilson (1827-1893)
Mother Elizabeth Brunton (Born 1825)
Spouse Margaret Rees (1866-1938)

William James Wilson from tree Waldman Family Tree
Record information.
Birth 1869 Cumberland England
Marriage 1889
Residence 02/04/1911 Swansea Glamorgan Wales
Record information.
Spouse Mary (Born 1873)

William James Wilson from tree davies-wilson Family Tree
Record information.
Birth 1868 Cumberland England
Marriage 10/02/1889 St Johns Perry Illinois USA
Residence 1914
Death Swansea Glamorgan Wales

Is the info for the right person?

Or not?

No point in your having info if it isn't 100% accurate

You haven't given any indication of how you worked back to 1860.

Tis appears to be William James Wilson born Ulverstone s qtr 1860 mum nee Brunton

William Wilson 1827 --1893 a Mason married Elizabeth Brunton born 1825.

William James Wilson 1860-1934 a Painter married Margaret Rees 1866-1938 in Swansea 22/6/1893

1911 93,St Helen Street Swansea
they had 6 children
William Havelock Wilson 1894
Evan Douglas 1896
Ernest R 1897
George 1900
Richard 1902
Archibald 1904

Info off Ancestry .co.uk tree so please double check info

Maryb.

Thank you all for your help.
anne.

Robert Owen Wilson's life in 1939
45 Hafod Street, Swansea, Swansea C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales

Tyson James Wilson 27 Apr 1894 Male Postman Driver Married 129 1
Linda Wilson 30 Oct 1909 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 129 2
Joseph Alec Wilson 23 Jul 1901 Male Coal Labourer Heavy Worker Single 129 3
Robert Owen Wilson 06 Feb 1904 Male Fireman Hawker Heavy Worker Single 129 4
David Wilson 10 Dec 1927 Male At School Single 129 5

parents for the ist willliam

Name: Thomas Wilson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1835
Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1860
Marriage Place: Preston, Lancaster, England
Father: William Wilson
Spouse: Margaret Nisbet
FHL Film Number: 1278758
Reference ID: 0156816

Name: Margaret Nisbet
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1836
Marriage Date: 6 Feb 1860
Marriage Place: Preston, Lancaster, England
Father: James Nisbet
Spouse: Thomas Wilson
FHL Film Number: 1278758
Reference ID: 0156816

Please note - this is just a wild stab in the dark. I won't do any more guessing until Enna comes back with more info re where she found her William James's name.


This man , born in Lancashire although not Manchester, married "a Welsh lady".
See Mary's post below for marriage.

His birth:
WILSON, WILLIAM JAMES mms BRUNTON
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in ULVERSTONE UNION Volume 08E Page 61

[Deleted other info which was for a different man, born 1868, not 1860. ]

Have you done anything yourself to look for info? There are several FREE sites where you can search

How did you work back to him? Please!!

????

Baptism: 4 Sep 1860 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
William James Wilson - [Child] of Thomas Wilson & Margaret
Abode: Clarence St.
Occupation: Soldier
Baptised by: E. J. Haynes
Register: Baptisms 1860 - 1861, Page 43, Entry 343
Source: LDS Film 93989

This seems to be the birth nearest to Manchester - there's no birth registration for that name actually in Manchester reg district;

WILSON, WILLIAM JAMES mms NESBIT
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in PRESTON Volume 08E Page 481


William James Wilson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William James Wilson
Age: Under 7 Months
Estimated birth year: 1860
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Preston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
View image
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 3130
Folio: 141
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Anne Flemming 60 - widow, Monaghan
Anne Jane Flemming 26 - daughter, unmarried, Ireland
Eliza Flemming 24 - daughter, unmarried, Ireland
Margaret Wilson 25 - boarder, married, Antrim, Ireland
William James Wilson Under 7 Months - boarder's son
Sarah Payne 22 - boarder, married, Belfast
Jane Nesbitt 22 - boarder, unmarried, Belfast
James Nesbitt 18 - boarder, unmarried, Belfst
Thomas Ward 17 - boarder, unmarried, Belfast

So what do you want to know about him, please?

And if there's anything else you already know, please tell us, as it may be helpful.

William James Wilson, born Manchester in 1860.
Married a Welsh lady I think.