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David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 09:35

Good Morning
I am trying to find a marriage between Robert Smith and Margaret Elizabeth Robinson. I appreciate there might not have been one however I wondered if I had just missed it. Have looked on BMD and Ancestry so far.
I would very much appreciate it if you were able to have a look for me.
Many Thanks


Robert Smith

in the 1881 England Census

Name Robert Smith
Age 26
Estimated Birth Year abt 1855
Relationship to Head Head
Spouse Margaret E. Smith
Gender Male
Where born Hartley, Northumberland, England
Civil parish Hartley
County/Island Northumberland
Country England
Street Address Hartley
Marital Status Married
Occupation Coal Miner
Registration District Tynemouth
ED, institution, or vessel 9
Neighbors
Piece 5089
Folio 57
Page number 13
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Smith 26 Head
Margaret E. Smith 25 Wife
Mary H. Smith 2 Daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Apr 2025 10:07

Presumably, this is your source for the Margaret's maiden name

SMITH, MARY HANNAH ROBINSON
GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 226

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Apr 2025 10:10

FMP version of census showing birthplaces for ALL

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hartley, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Robert Smith Head Married Male 26 1855 Coal miner Hartley, Northumberland, England
Margaret E Smith Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Hartley, Northumberland, England
Mary H Smith Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Hartley, Northumberland, England


In 1891, the birthplaces are recorded as Earsdon, but that's the same RD

David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:13

Robert Smith

in the 1891 England Census


Name Robert Smith
Gender Male
Age 36
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1855
Spouse
Margaret E Smith
Child
Mary H Smith
Margaret A Smith
Matthew R Smith
Elizabeth J Smith
Birth Place Earsdon, Northumberland, England
Civil parish Hartley
Residence Place Old Hartley, Hartley, Northumberland, England
Registration District Tynemouth
Sub registration district Earsdon
ED, Institution or Vessel 14
Neighbors
Piece 4236
Folio 4
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Robert Smith 36 Head
Margaret E Smith 35 Wife
Mary H Smith 12 Daughter
Margaret A Smith 6 Daughter
Matthew R Smith 2 Son
Elizabeth S Smith 1/12 Daughter

David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:14

The other three children also have Mother's Maiden Name of Robinson

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2025 10:15

Margaret Elizabeth was born in Hartley per 1881 census; Earsdon per 1891 and 1901.

Both are in Tynemouth reg district.
There are six birth registrations of girls named Margaret Robinson in Tynemouth, 1854-57, but none with middle name Elizabeth.

I don't see her marriage to Robert.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Apr 2025 10:21

No sign of a marriage........could this be her in 1871?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hartley Village, West End, Hartley, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Mary Robinson Head - Female 38 1833 Dressmaker Earsdon, Northumberland, England
Margaret Elizabeth Robinson Daughter - Female 15 1856 Scholar Earsdon, Northumberland, England
William T Robinson Son - Male 11 1860 Scholar Earsdon, Northumberland, England

David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:33

Yes that is her

MMN Softley

David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:36

Some connection here I think
Dates look good and Roberts father was John


Robert Smith

in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973

Name Robert Smith
Gender Male
Marital Status Single
Age 23
Birth Date 1855
Marriage Date 8 Apr 1878
Marriage Place St. James, Gateshead, Durham, England
Father
John Smith
Spouse
Margaret Elizabeth Skinner
FHL Film Number 1514592
Reference ID EP GASJ2 p199#398

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2025 10:38

Ancestry suggests these are the births of those Robinson children in 1871 census:

ROBINSON, WILLIAM mmn SOFTLEY
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 169

ROBINSON, MARGARET mmn SOFTLEY
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in TYNEMOUTH Volume 10B Page 152

Not that that helps at all re a Smith/Robinson marriage.


Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)
ROBINSON Matthew Tynemouth 10b 199
SOFTLEY Mary Tynemouth 10b 199


David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:39

Margaret Elizabeth Robinson

in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915


Name Margaret Elizabeth Robinson
Registration Year 1873 [1873]
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County Northumberland
Volume 10b
Page 238
Records on Page (Name)
Hannah Annison
Margaret Elizabeth Robinson
Robert Scott
James Skinner

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2025 10:43

The Smith/Skinner marriage looks good.

Margaret Elizabeth Skinner
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name Margaret Elizabeth Skinner
[Margaret Elizabeth Robinson]
Gender Female
Marital Status Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Age 22
Birth Date 1856
Marriage Date 8 Apr 1878
Marriage Place St. James, Gateshead, Durham, England
Father
Matthew Robinson <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse
Robert Smith
FHL Film Number 1514592
Reference ID EP GASJ2 p199#398

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David

David Report 16 Apr 2025 10:43

Thank you for your help :-D