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oooo this looks promising...thankyou

Will definately send for the certs...thanks for that everyone and keep u posted....

1871 has an Ellen Welsh whose birth details match.....note also the names of the eldest and youngest girl.......

Name: Ellen Welsh
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Welsh
Mother's name: Mary Welsh
Gender: Female
Where born: Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: Beaufort
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Household schedule number: 253
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Welsh 30
Mary Welsh 28
Bridgett Welsh 10
Ellen Welsh 6
Jane Welsh 4
Alice Welsh 1 Month
Thomas Scott 40
John Allen 30
John Williams 26

1901

Name: Daniel Cowley
Age in 1901: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Cowley
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Ebbw Vale
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales


Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Cowley 33
Ellen Cowley 35
John Cowley 13
Bridget Cowley 5
James Cowley 3
Timothy Cowley 1
Daniel Cowley 9 Months

1891

Name: Ellen Cunningham
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ebbw Vale, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Dowlais
Town: Dowlais
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales


Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Upper Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Cunningham 26
Mary Cunningham 7
Jno Cunningham 3
William Cunningham 6/12

Julie, I would suggest that you get that marriae cert and let us know who the father is, or get the birth cert of one of her children to get her maiden name.

Thankyou for taking the time to help...

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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CROWLEY Daniel Bedwelty 11a 179
Cunningham Ellen Bedwelty 11a 179

But I can't find a marriage of Ellen Welsh to John Cunningham.

Or indeed any Ellen marrying John Cunningham in the right area or time frame.

If she is Ellen Welsh, the birthcert of one of her children will confirm that.

Or maybe the above marriage cert will confirm her father.

The John Crowley in 1911 could be any age - the original is unclear, actually looks like he is 89, but 59 is possible, which would make him old enough to have been married for 27 years and have a son J aged 23. But this son is called Cunningham, not Crowley.

A tree on Ancestry has Ellen Welsh b 1865 marrying John Cunningham (no date) and having children Mary 1884, John 1888, and William 1890, died 1891. It then has her marrying Daniel Crowley in 1892 with children Irene 1892, Thomas 1894, Bridget 1896 and Alice 1902.

No census records.

As yet I can't find anything to confirm any of this.

Marriage

PreviewName: Daniel Crowley
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bedwelty
County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Ellen Cunningham 1892 Bedwelty Monmouthshire

Not Ellen and John

But i have daniel crowley as being married to Ellen in 1892, do you think she could have married again?. I have the marriage cert for Ellen and Daniel.

IN addition to the children shown on the census, two had died before the census was taken.

Thankyou for your help...

Thanks GB...........I got lucky!

Good spot Flick

1911

Person: CROWLEY, Bridget
Address: 8 Hall Street Victoria Waunllwyd

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CROWLEY, Alice Daughter F 8 1903 At School Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, John James Son M 6 1905 At School Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, Thomas Joseph Son M 2 1909 Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, Joseph Son M 1 1910 VIEW
CROWLEY, Daniel Son M 11 1900 At School Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, Ellen Wife Married
27 years F 45 1866 Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, John Head Married M 39 1872 Collier Ireland VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, J Son M 23 1888 Lot Miner Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, Timothy Son M 12 1899 At School Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW
CROWLEY, Bridget Daughter F 16 1895 Ebbw Vale Mon VIEW

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Updated message.....have since found out Rene was really Alice Crowley who maried a William Dicks and had five children ...later married a Thomas Price and moved to Doncaster after 1938 and had 2 daughters Sylvia and Margaret and a son Thomasbut have found no evidence to prove this. i was wondering if anyone could please help me in my search.......would be much appreciated..maybe the 1911 census could shed some light....thankyou Julie

MY NAME IS JULIE AND I'M LOOKING FOR MY GREAT GRAND DADJOHN CUNNINGHAM'S SIBLINGS. HE WAS BORN 1888 IN DOWLAIS MERTHYR, WITH PARENTS BEING ELLEN AND JOHN CUNNINGHAM. SISTER WAS MARY CUNNINGHAM. ALSO TRYING TO FIND HIS STEP FAMILY WHO WERE THOMAS/TOMMY, BRIDGET, DANIEL, RENE/IRENE CROWLEY. WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO.....JULIE