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greyghost
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13 Sep 2025 16:54 |
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If correct - married more than once previously in Scotland
Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name MCKENZIE HUGH GRANT DRUCKE RUTH MARIA 1954 168 / 2 / 294 Aberdeen Southern District No image Certificates not available
75 year closure on obtaining marriage certificates - you can look I believe if you actually go to the Records Office in Scotland.
Marriage - Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name DRUCKE RUTH BAILLIE JOHN 1948 275 / 66 Brechin View (6 credits) Certificates not available
You can register with Scotland's People and buy credits and then view the certificate for the later marriage for 6 credits ((30 credits for £7.50 last time I bought)
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nameslessone
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13 Sep 2025 16:53 |
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Looks as though those two Hugh’s were born in Scotland. ( I don’t have SP)
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13 Sep 2025 16:51 |
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Hugh Grant McKenzie and Ruth McKenzie are at 43 Foss Street, Glebe North, West Sydney in 1963. He's a plasterer and she's a saleswoman
with Ruth Marie at 105 Harris Street, Pyrmont, Werriwar, Macarthur, NSW in 1958
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13 Sep 2025 16:45 |
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:-P to me, I think I was looking at 1928.
If that sailing is correct it would confirm my thoughts that Ruth had been married before, after all, she was nearly 60 when she married.
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13 Sep 2025 16:40 |
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DOB fits -
Board Of Trade: Commercial And Statistical Department And Successors: Outwards Passenger Lists Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
First name(s) Ruth Marie Country Australia Last name McKenzie Ship's name New Australia Sex Female Destination place - country AUSTRALIA Birth day 15 Destination country Australia Birth month 1 Ship's gross tonnage 20256 Birth year 1926 Ship's owner or agent SHAW SAVILL LINE Marital status M Number of passengers 0 Occupation Housewife Ship's departure port SOUTHAMPTON Departure day 27 Ship's destination port Fremantle Departure month 7 Ship's destination country Australia Departure year 1955 Archive The National Archives Departure country England Series title Board Of Trade: Commercial And Statistical Department And Successors: Outwards Passenger Lists Departure port Southampton Series BT 27 Destination port Melbourne Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960 Entry struck out N Category Travel & migration State or territory Victoria Subcategory Passenger Lists Destination Melbourne Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia
Listed as housewife travelling with Hugh G McKenzie born 25.2.1918 a Solid Plasterer and Hugh G McKenzie born 1944, Scholar. From 41 Portchester Square, Bayswater W2. Intending to stay in Australia, contracted to land in Melbourne
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greyghost
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13 Sep 2025 16:24 |
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Only seeing 2 Ruth M births as McKenzie 1926 +/- 2 years. The first is 1924 in Oundle but a Q2 registration.
Possible birth for Ruth - only one England/Wales. Quarter is right but year out by one - death says born 1926 - not unusual. Not seeing a birth in Scotland either to fit the given birth year on death record. But she may have been born elsewhere.
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Mar 1927 (>99%) McKenzie Ruth M Marshall Middlesbro' 9d 816
From the GRO site - Ruth Margaret McKenzie
Do you know what her initial M stands for and do you know anything else about her?
EDIT - will leave, but not this one if next post is correct
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nameslessone
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13 Sep 2025 16:17 |
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Well done Greyghost. I’ve been working on my iPad whilst most of that needed to be done on my computer
As you have shown, there does seem to be confusion over names - who, what when sort of thing, I assume Christopher knows all that.
He really does need to collect what information he can from his father’s marriage certificate to Ruth. At the age they were it is very likely they were both married before.
Maybe Christopher knows where Ruth came from - there a lot of Ruth M’s registered in the first quarter of 1928.
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13 Sep 2025 15:15 |
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There is marriage in 1984 - of a Ruth M McKenzie to Anthony Beddow
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages 1984 (>99%) BEDDOW ANTHONY MCKENZIE HARROW 12 1223 MCKENZIE RUTH M BEDDOW HARROW 12 1223
and the death of a Ruth Beddow in 2000 born 15.1.1926 in the Enfield, Middx RD
First name(s) Ruth Register number D47D Last name Beddow Entry number 076 Sex Female Date of registration mm/yy 0600 Birth day 15 County Middlesex Birth month 1 Country England Birth year 1926 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Death quarter 2 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death year 2000 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials District Enfield Collections from Great Britain, England District number 2271D
There is a probate record for a Ruth Beddow died 27 June - Ipswich Registry Office. Probate is not necessarily sorted at the nearest to place of death. Possible clues if you have that or send for it. (£1.50 I think through the site)
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/search-results
Is this the person you refer to?
Anthony ?died in 2000 born 16.2.1928 in the Haringey, London RD
Though I see your surname on GR shows as Grady - not necessarily a bar to these being the right people?
EDIT - ?Anthony's parents married 1926 Cannock RD - Bruce Beddow and Stella Grady. Anthony B born Cannock RD Q1 1928 The 3 of them are in Gloucestershire in 1939.
EDIT - missed the DOB you posted for Ruth and where you said you are researching Anthony Beddow - so this is the correct person/people then.
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13 Sep 2025 12:08 |
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Ruth is no longer a member of Genes so there is no way of contacting her.
Do you have the marriage cert for Ruth and your father as this should show if she had another name. If she had been married before it should give her birth surname.
Once you know you can then try again with frrebmd and Scotlands people. With her fathers name and occupation from the marriage cert you should be able to find him on the 1939 register and previous census.
Added: I’m wondering where this is as I haven’t yet found this marriage.
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Christopher
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13 Sep 2025 11:45 |
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I am trying to find a Ruth M Mackenzie born 1926 d 2000. She was married to my father for the last 16 years of their lives. Her birthday was 15th January but I can't find a birth certificate. TJust in case this tunes with your search
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Ruth
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30 Dec 2003 18:10 |
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DO YOU HAVE THESE NAMES IN YOUR FAMILY HISTORY?
jAMES WILLIAM FELL ATKINSON(c1903) in GATESHEAD OR NEWCASTLE AREA.
ELIZABETH OR LIZZIE ATKINSON(married name WATSON)
ANNIE MAY
RUTH MCKENZIE(formerly ATKINSON)would like to hear from you,
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