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Will keep looking for your Warrens and no not found the time to go yet but will try to get there soon. June x

Hi June I found the marriage of Phoebe Warren dated June 1863 and came under the number 3a 812 whereas Edwin Ravenhill came under 3a 81 John

Yes that is my Ravenhills for my mums sister was born in the same house. On my Nans marriage cert her father down as Edward Ravenhill John

Yes June I'm sure it is, but on a later census Edwin down as Edward which confused me.Its just the Warrens I would like to find about, did my Great Gran Pheobe have any brothers or sisters? My wife said hi, and did you get to the war cemetery. John x

1881 census Name: Edwin Ravenhill Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Phoebe Gender: Male Where born: Isleworth, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Isleworth County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Wellington Rd 1 Orchard Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Lamplighter Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Clara Ravenhill 7 Edwin Ravenhill 39 Edwin Ravenhill 17 Florry Ravenhill 3 George Ravenhill 15 Henry Ravenhill 5 Hetty Ravenhill 9 Phoebe Ravenhill 34 June x

Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RAVENHILL Edwin James Brentford 3a 81 TALBOT Sarah Brentford 3a 81 THOMAS Daniel Brentford 3a 81 some missing June x

1861 census Name: Edwin James Ravenhill Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Grandson Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Isleworth, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Isleworth Ecclesiastical parish: Hounslow County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Isleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Ann Anstead 76 Head Edwin James Ravenhill 20 Ann Taylor 46 could this be him June x

Many thanks Reg and June for helping me out.

Hi Reg Yes I will purchase a birth cert for Pheobe but what puzzles me is not finding them on any of the census records. I have found Pheobe married to Edward Ravenhill but unable to find Edward Ravenhill previous to that in the census records for Brentford which is why I am wondering if any of the Middlesex records could have been destroyed. Regards John

The only sure way of learning Phoebe's parentage is to purchase the birth cert. Reg

Yes John and Hi to you and your wife June x

Births Jun 1845 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARREN Phabe Brentford 3 20 The district Brentford is in the county of Middlesex and information about it can be found here. June x

Many thanks June. Are you June maiden name Hampson if so Hi.

Hi Reg No they didn't emigrate. Ihad a job trying to find daughter Pheobe eventually found her under Phabe Warren. b June 1845 Brentford. Then I managed to find a James Warren married Susannah Smith married in Dec 1837 Brentford. A relative told me the name of mother of Pheobe was Susan so presume these are her parents. I found a death for a Susannah Warren in 1910 Brentford age 84. making her born 1826 A death for a James Warren 1870 Brentford.age 52 making him born 1818. regards John

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHEBE WARREN Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 06 APR 1845 Christening: 30 APR 1845 Isleworth, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES WARREN Mother: SUSAN June x

So they don't appear on any census from 1841 to 1901.......did they perhaps emigrate? When and where were they born? All of them please........ Reg

Can anyone tell me if there any Middlesex records missing, especially in the Brentford area. Looking for a James and Susannah Warren but unable to find them on any of the census records. They married in 1837 and had a daughter Pheobe in 1843