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Peter On my family side I have the name of the bride and formerly ****** checking through certs etc she was married before. On the second marriage they gave the surname that they now had which was their married surname (previous marriage) this has happened on quite a number of occasions. All I can suggest is that you look for a previous marriage for her. Good luck.

Does 1851 say where Sarah Thacker was b (out of county in 41)? Thanks P

Sarah's first husband should be John....... P

Thank's sue - that solves the Thacker one - Peter

1841 HO 107/693/9 - St. Matthew,Bethnal Green Folio 45, Page 13 Centre Street THACKER Joseph - 70 - shoemaker Sarah - 65 - cotton winder both born out of county

From Pallots marriage index Jos THACKER - wid Sarah PETERS - wid 1825 - St. John ,Hackney

Hi, I obviously didn't know that..........didn't look at the original image. Regards V

oops - I knew that!! in law was a slip of the finger..... P

Sarah Thacker is mother not mother in law.

Hi Peter, Maybe his mother in law remarried as well.... just to confuse us !!!!!! Regards Vera

If you really wan't to mix it up!! First wife was Rosanna Sanders Sarah Thacker is his mother in law - and I can't fit that in either!! Peter

Harriet was 40 when she married - I doubt if she was a spinster! In which case either her father's name is made up, or she was previously Mrs Waters. OC

Hi Peter, 1851 census 1851 England Census about William Peters Name: William Peters Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerstone St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Peters 17 Charles Peters 7 Harriet Peters 49 John Peters 51 William Peters 4 Sarah Thacker 76 Regards Vera

Sorry - on marriage cert it says spinster. Also her name matches her father's name. Only possibility on 1841 seems to be a harriet brown who is in prison! Can anyone find the family in 51 as a start? Peter

Sorry about that you did clearly write her fathers name - opps!! The first birth was registered by the father ......... could WATERS be his FIRST wifes' maiden name????

I maybe asking/stating the obvious Peter - however have you checked to see if a) Harriet was married before? b) that she hadn't taken on a step fathers name? Much happiness debi

Three facts' (1. ) 25 Sept 1842 John Peters (widower) marries Harriet Brown in Paddington. Her father Michael Brown. Both full age. His occupation trimming manufacturer. (2.) 14 Jan 1844 Charles Peters b 1 Kent St Haggerstone. Father John Peters (Trimming Manufacturer) mother Harriet Peters formerly Waters.(?????) Waters on certificate supplied by GRO and checked against original register held in Hackney RO. Birth registered by father, John Peters. (3.) William Peters b 28 May 1847 53 Gt Cambridge St, Haggerstone. Father John, trimming manufacturer, mother Harriet Peters, formerly Brown. Birth registered by mother. I can't explain the 'Waters' but am totally bewildered....any suggestions welcomed Peter