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Good, you have Lotties birth cert - her ftaher is with an Eliza in the census i have found - it would be easy to assume that was her mother. when did her mother emma die?- your tree doesnt say ------------------------------------------------------ Carol -i am just showing justin how to plod uyour way back, slowly and carefully - noting what you find, and not jump from line to line and muddle yourself, likewise look out for anything totally obvioulsy wrong or absurd ( like Georges father william being 103 when he had him!) Justin, only you know what certs you have, you Knew Georges father was called George....and yet you had him as william!

I only have what I was given myself. The geneologist put William? or George? on t etree that seh eventually gave me at cost £30, so I did not know which was which George or William, Being new to this its not easy and as you can a puzzel for me. I do not have any death certs at all for anyone on the tree. I do not know when Robert Nightingale's wife died? I also do not know why Thomas James TRIPP (aka) Francis William TRIPP) b. 18 March 1883 Pancras used 2 names or anything about his father- Thomas James TRIPP b. 31 October 1860 Camborne Son of James Henry TRIPP I do not hav eany info on my grandfather (my mothers father) born 1909 John Francis TRIPP b. 25 February 1909 Brixton d.2002 who called himself 'Jack' Also on the marriage cert of of Francis Willima Tripp who married Annie Mabel Robbins in 1906 district St.Giles, London its written on the side it says: In entry no 147 col 2 for Francis William Tripp Tripp was read Thomas James Tripp otherwisae Francis William Tripp col 3 for 27 read 22 col 7 for Francis William read col bla bla to much to type here. Francis William Tripp was a Warehouse clerk father recored on cert as also Francis William Tripp!!!! Annie Mabels father was a mechanical engineer formerly of 42 Millman street Holborn. All this was written onto the cert. Is it normal for father and son to have the same names? Is it Thomas or Francis? could it be bigomy?? or soem name hiding due to crime or fraud?? They marrried 27th of Jan 1906 no 147.