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William Lammimans daughter remembers him being called Billy Lemon - so that confirms that bit!!!!!!! Peter

I think the answer may well be a Lemon (LOL) - I can't find a Joseph Lemon with the 'right' parents in 1881....and the Children do all have the right names - am now checking to see if I can find a Lammiman BMD to fit each of the Lemon children. Some days I think model railways are more appealing!! Peter

Thank you both - will work on this!! Peter

Georgina, Snap LOL Maureen

Great minds Glitter Baby LOL. Georgina.

Goodnight Peter, the nearest I can find in 1901 (children seem to match) but John's wife is now Elizabeth & the surname is Lemon, probably grasping at straws... 1901 census. Name: Charlie Lemon Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel Maida Hill County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: St Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Billy Lemon 3 Charlie Lemon 11 Elizabeth Lemon 44 Emma Lemon 19 Henry Lemon 19 Jack Lemon 15 John Lemon 46 Joseph Lemon 21 Rosie Lemon 9 Sarah Lemon 5 Georgina.

1901 best match I can find on names but wife is Elizabeth Name: Jack Lemon Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel Maida Hill County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Billy Lemon 3 Charlie Lemon 11 Elizabeth Lemon 44 Emma Lemon 19 Henry Lemon 19 Jack Lemon 15 John Lemon 46 Joseph Lemon 21 Rosie Lemon 9 Sarah Lemon 5 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 112; Folio: 65; Page: 2. Will take a look at the image Maureen Update - think I will rule this one out Image is Lemon Address is 1 Victoria Place John is general labourer Living next door is Robert Bunyan 38, wife Eliza 33 and nephew Thomas Beston 4

Hi Georgina I have to sleep on this (it's night in NZ) Thanks for help so far!! Back in about 8 hours Peter

Gets worse and worse - John has a brother Joseph b 1860 who is married to Eliza Neal?????????????????? Children fit necely with what I have though!! Peter

Peter if this is them in 1891 then John has become Joseph & he is a Bricklayers labourer? Name: John Lemmimon Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, London, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Lemmimon 2 Emma Lemmimon 32 Emma Lemmimon 10 Henry Lemmimon 8 John Lemmimon 6 Joseph Lemmimon 36 Joseph Lemmimon 11 Georgina.

1891 - 26 Orcus Street is occupied by Spearing family RG12/102/146/38

Sarah definitely didn't die - I have marriage for her later on - There is a Rose in 1901 in Marylebone aged 10 which fits June 1891 Marylebone birth - could that be her?

Just posting 1881 census for reference.. Name: John Lammaman Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son in Law Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 26 Orcus Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Labourer Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 4a Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emma Beasley 9 Mary Beasley 10 William Beasley 15 John Bunyan 58 Susan Bunyan 56 Emma Lammaman 20 John Lammaman 27 Joseph Lammaman Georgina.

Unfortunately I don't have them in 91 (yet) - they are proving elusive - in 1881 they are as Lammaman with John Bunyan in Orcus Street Peter

Could Rosina & Sarah have died as babies? Deaths Jun 1889 Lammiman Rosina 0 Marylebone 1a 390 Deaths Dec 1888 Lammiman Sarah 1 Marylebone 1a 437 Georgina.

Peter if you have the family in 1891 can you post the details for reference. Georgina.

Should be in Marylebone - may have drifted into Kensington - family business is fishmongers!! Peter

Peter where were they born? Georgina.

Hi I can't find John and Emma Lammiman in 1901 with children including Henry Harry b c 1977, William 1897 and Jack, Charlie, Emma, Sarah and Rosina - a second look would be appreciated- might also be a Joseph b 1880. If not in 1901, how about 1891!! Thanks Peter