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Can some kind person look up the following in the 1851,1861,1871 Census: James and Mary Cox, Canterbury Lane, Canterbury James Smith,[ occu.Tailor] High Street, Tunbridge Wells would be most grateful

When/where was James Cox born please?

1871 for James Smith??? Name: Henry James Smith Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Mary Ann Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Bishopsgate without, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Tonbridge Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Tunbridge Wells County: Kent Street address: 24 Mount Ephraim Terrace Occupation: Draper (employing 1 female) Registration district: Tunbridge Sub-registration district: Tunbridge Wells Household Members: Emma Graves Mfatt 19 (assistant) Henry James Smith 27 Mary Ann Elizabeth Smith 25

Hi Christine - Haven't got a clue, but he had a daughter Mary Ann 1850. Births seem to be Canterbury area.

Hi again Christine - I will put your James Smith info. on the back burner for now as I can't match all at moment. Thanks for your help Eileen

1851 for James and Mary Cox Name: Mary Ann Cox Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's name: James Mother's name: Mary Ann Where born: Canterbury, Kent, England Civil parish: Canterbury St George the Martyr County: Kent Occupation: Servant Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury Household Members: Charles Cox 8 Charlotte Cox 3 Dee Bart Cox 9 Emily Mary Cox 14 James Cox 43 (born Littletown, Kent) Mary Ann Cox 36 (born Waltham, Kent) Mary Ann Cox 1 Morris Cox 11 (Barham/Barnham, Kent)

Brilliant Christine!! over the moon .... Eileen

1861 Name: James Cox Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Where born: Littleborough, Kent, England Civil parish: Canterbury St George the Martyr Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury County: Kent Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury Household Members: Charles Cox 18 (shoesmith) Charlotte Cox 18 (scholar) De Bart Cox 19 (tailor) Edward Cox 9 Emily May Cox 24 (housekeeper) James Cox 54 (coachman, widower) James Cox 7 Maria Cox 1 (grand daughter) Mayhew Cox 11 (Mary Ann on image - scholar) Morris Cox 21 (iron monger's assistant) Address: 6 Canterbury Lane

1871 Name: James Cox Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1807 Relation: Head Where born: Littlebourn, Kent, England Civil Parish: St George the Martyr Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury County: Kent Registration district: Canterbury Sub-registration district: Canterbury Household Members: (living at same address as previously) Edward Cox 19 (fly driver) Emily Mary Cox 35 (housekeeper) James Cox 64 (fly driver) James Cox 17 (iron monger's assistant) Mary Ann Cox 21 (needlewoman) Hester Ann Savage 25 (daughter, married) Maria Savage 11 (surname is Cox on image) grand daughter 2 households away is a Savage family (that sounds weird!) No married son there though.

1881 for James Name: James Cox Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808 Relation: Father Gender: Male Where Born: Littlebourne, Kent, England Civil parish: Canterbury St George Martyr County/Island: Kent Street address: 6 St Georges Street (White Lion Inn) Condition as to marriage: Widow E Occupation: Coachman Registration district: Canterbury Sub registration district: Canterbury Household Members Charles Cox 33 (head of household - licensed victualler) Charles H. Cox 7 Edith Cox 9 Ester Cox 34 (wife of Charles) Fanny Cox 10 James Cox 73 Martha E. Cox 4 Walter J. Cox 5 Henry Richardson 29 (lodger) Charles Wibsdon 26 (lodger) Thomas Wibsdon 40 (lodger)

Any more info on James Smith please - where/when born?

Hi Christine. You've turned up some great stuff for me ! I'm getting a bit bogged down now and will have to re-group my info. There is definitely a connection with 'Savage' as one of my Smith ancestors [ my grandfather I think]turned up on a census with her as her nephew..... James Smith would be his grandfather I think. I only have his son John's marriage cert. to Mary Ann Cox.in 1871- which of course gives just his name - oh silly me!!! So sorry - I've just seen he was deceased! Still - he should have been around in 1861 ? Tunbridge Wells or Canterbury would be the likely places. thanks again Eileen

Hi Christine I've also just noticed that Hester Ann Savage is a witness on said marriage between John Smith and Mary Ann Cox !! You're a real treasure .....

Here's Hester Savage in 1881 Name: Hester Ann Savage Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Wife Spouses's Name: Robert Where Born: Canterbury, Kent, England Civil parish: Maidstone County: Kent Street address: 14 Stacey Passage Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone Household Members: Hester Ann Savage 35 Richard J. Savage 1 Robert Savage 38 Any info on John Smith married to Mary Ann Cox to help locate him on any census - I can't see Mary Ann Smith 1850, born Canterbury on 1881.

I see that Mary Ann is on the 1871 census you sent -age 21yrs - which is right.!871 is also the year she married John Smith[ middle name James].He was born 1839 in Tunbridge Wells.

Meant to also say p'raps she died before the next census 1881 - I'd better search deaths I think....

Now I am confused! John James Smith's father was ?James - or was that his grandfather? Exactly what information do you have on John James Smith - he married Mary Ann Cox in 1871 (after the census). He was a tailor. I assume this info is from marriage cert. He was born in 1839, Tunbridge Wells - where did that come from please? I have found a possible in 1851, but father is Thomas, so not posting, in case I muddy the water further!

So sorry about the confusion and sorry I haven't replied sooner - I've been out for the evening .... I'll refer to John James Smith as John Smith. I got his birth year from his age when he got married 32yrs in 1871. His father on the certificate is James Smith.They were both Tailors. The address is High St. Tunbridge Wells.I deduced that John must have been born there because he also had a son born there called , confusingly ,Thomas born 1874.... I'm so sorry to have been a pain about this as you have been so helpful and kind. Anyway - the Cox's you found for me were very interesting and have given me leads to follow there. The Smiths are a real pain and I also have difficulties with ancestors called Osborne - but I won't push my luck at the moment !! regards Eileen