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Help please with a death after accident on a ship
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:25 |
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I am trying to find the death of Maurice (Morris ) Vaile he was born 2/11/1856 and was on board a ship called 'Champion' on 1881 census, his name was scratched out, family history says he was hurt at sea and died due to accident in his 20's...have tried googleing ship 's name nothing...any help wud be brill, Maurice was born in westbury-on-sea Gloucester, mum sarah....pa...Cornelius Vaile.......Joanie |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 16:28 |
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Have you looked for his death cert - that would confirm when he died and what he died of. nell |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 22 May 2006 16:30 |
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sounds as if he died near to the 1881 census if his name was adde then scratched out have you looked for his death arond 1881 |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:30 |
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No i havent Nell, was trying to find the ship to see if they had any records of his accident or death....Joanie |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:31 |
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yes shirley i have looked on 1837 jan to june 1881...nothing....Joanie |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 16:31 |
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There are two on ancestry: Maurice Vaile Civil parish: Vessels Occupation: Abel Seaman Source information: RG11/5636 Folio: 70 Page: 17 Registration district: Royal Navy Sub registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Inconstant and the one with the name crossed out - there are lots of names crossed out, not just your relative. Not sure whether they were all put on the wrong ship! or whether it was something to do with the enumerator. nell Name: Maurice Vaile Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Where Born: Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Able Seaman Source information: RG11/5641 Folio: 74 Page: 4 Registration district: Royal Navy Sub registration district: Royal Navy ED, institution, or vessel: Champion nell |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:34 |
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Thank you Nell.....this guy was a family mystery...so he was married...ur a star....Joanie |
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Mystified | Report | 22 May 2006 16:36 |
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I would suspect of the 2 in 1881 the crossed out Maurice was moved to the other ship Also there is Maurice in 1901 living in Lancashire. Seems the same guy to me Cheers |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:40 |
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Thank you one and all, but cousin said her mother knew maurice and he died young maybe in his 20's....ur all a good crowd once again thanks for ur kind help.....Joanie |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 22 May 2006 16:40 |
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Have just looked on the 1881 and his name is on there maurice vaile married born westbury gloucester are you saying his wife added him to her list & it was crossed out cos he wasnt actually at home at the night of census Only one comes up on the vessel Champion,cant see any other crossed out entry |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:41 |
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no shirley his name was crossed out on census on ship records, what was his wife's name please any children ???...ur all so good ...Joanie |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 16:44 |
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This seems to be the same chap in 1901: Walton on the Hill Lancashire Mary A Vaile abt 1836 Westbury, Gloucestershire, Head Maurice Vaile abt 1857 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, Stepson Dora Vaile abt 1877 Westbury, Gloucestershire, Daughter He's single and I can't make out his occupation. He's 44, but when people say that someone died young, they might just mean they didn't live to a ripe old age. can't see him in 1891, perhaps he was at sea. |
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Mystified | Report | 22 May 2006 16:45 |
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Well Joanie I wouldn't dismiss the 1901 Maurice He is a stepson to a Mary Vaile and there is also a Dora Vaile all born in Gloucs. and living in Liverpool |
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Joanie | Report | 22 May 2006 16:49 |
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Thank you Nell and everyone..so one cannot always rely on family info...i will check it all out, when i have fed the gang...once agine thanks i see light beyond the tunnel....Joanie x |
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Mystified | Report | 22 May 2006 16:49 |
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2 possible females he may have married Hannah Boulter 1880 Apr-May-Jun Portsea Island (1837-1900) Hampshire Fanny Morris 1880 Apr-May-Jun Portsea Island (1837-1900) Hampshire |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 16:54 |
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Marriage: Maurice Martin Vaile Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 783 Bride is one of these ladies: Hannah Boulter Fanny Morris |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 16:58 |
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This MIGHT be his wife in 1881 whilst he is on board ship: Fanny Vaile abt 1857 Lancaster, Lancashire, Boarder Portsea Hampshire She (and virtually all the other women on the page) are described as 'seaman's wife' Its in the same area as the marriage - a port, where you'd expect a sailor's wife to be, and she's the same age as Maurice. She was also born in the same county as Maurice is living in 1901. |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 22 May 2006 16:58 |
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OOOOh from Freebmd thers a marriage in June 1880 for a maurice vaile in Portsea 2b 783. could be either Hannah Boulter or Fanny Morris |
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Unknown | Report | 22 May 2006 17:28 |
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Hi I have checked Jan 1881 to Dec 1886 and i can find no death for Maurice Vaile, however i did find the following deaths that maybe some use to you. Lilian Rachel Vaile Aged 5yrs Glouchester Qtr Sept 1882 Vol 6a page 166 Albert Edward Vaile Aged 0yrs Glouchester Qtr Dec 1883 vol 6a pg 164 Mary Vaile aged 71yrs Glouchester Qtr Mar 1885 Vol 6a Pg 8?1 Annie x |
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