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ohhhhh brilliant!!!! nice to see it all coming together, good luck in your searches Hugs Julie

Dear Julie Thanks again to members of GR they were EVENTUALLY found on 1901 census MISTRANSCRIBED as 'Try' so I have the family here. I've just found his birth too - my bank manager will be pleased x

hiya, have you got him on 1901 census? if so was maud still living with him?? I cannot find her or jacob, or any of them, I may be just missing them, (praps tired) regards Julie

is this the son george?? Name: Jacob George Fry Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Edmonton County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 365 (click to see others on page) regards Julie

Thanks Jess - literally just found it too - typical - 3 days I've spent searching the WRONG name - found it almost straight away. Thanks too for the death info - hadn't got that far yet Huge hugs xxxxxxxx

hiya have you seen this???? Name: Jacob George Fry Birth Date: abt 1862 Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 47 District: Edmonton County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 261 (click to see others on page) regards Julie

Jacob George Fry 1887 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Louisa Powell 1887 Oct-Nov-Dec Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex Name: Jacob George Fry Year of Registration: 1887 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Islington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 441 (click to see others on page)

ARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH Just discovered that dearest George is actually JACOB George Fry but clearly known as George to the family hence census entries as George and the fact I can't find his marriage to Louisa. Am off to search 10yrs worth of BETA data for marriage AGAIN

Thanks Helen - I have this George as a possible seems to be the only one to remotely fit x

This might be him (Holloway is in Islington) George Fry Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Where Born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Marys Islington Street address: 34 Queensland Rd Occupation: Plasterer Source information: RG12/268 Folio: 74 Page: 18 Plastering is in the building trade.

For ease of info from 1891 census - (thanks Jess for the nudge on the original thread) George Fry, head bn 1863 in Holloway London, wife is Louisa nee Powell bn 1864 Brixton London, son George bn 1889 in Tottenham and daughter Maud bn 1888 birthplace illegiable. George was a master builder.

Dianna I missed your earlier thread - details about George in 1891 - birthplace and birthyear, and I will see if I can find him. nell

Dear Jess, Helen and Heather Thanks for your replies - sorry been late getting back - have to snatch moments on here inbetween 3 small kiddiwinks! Yes its still George Fry causing the issue! I've checked all variations of his name - I have no idea who his parents were or where he was married - I've been trying to trace the marriage probably London area through matches between his name and his spouse Louisa Powell though the Beta BMD on ancestry. Its his family I'm trying to find details of to get back a generation but once again he just vanishes. Hence my reasoning that there might have been non-conformist records

Non-conformists kept separate church/meeting house records, but they would be on the census. I bet they are just mistranscribed, or the information they gave isn't what you were expecting. nell

I assume its the Fry's you are looking for george anyway. any idea of his parents names or where he married?

Hi Dianna If you give his name we could search for him too. He's probably been mistranscribed. Heather

I have been unable to find my Great Grandfather earlier than the 1891 census. My mother thinks he may have come from a quaker family. Forgive my ignorance (fairly new to all this) but surely even quakers filled out census returns - or is there some group of records I'm unaware of? If so what and where can I get them. Answers on a postcard please?...........