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Suzanne, thank you so much. I have sent you a PM your help is very much appreciated best regards Karen

suzanne many thanks for the look up for Ernest. did it give an occupation for Walter? and the address they were living at please. yes printer would be correct. he was believed to become a Printer at a Letter Press. (his father samuel was a ?house painter?. / maybe not, wondering now if he was into printing too!) regards karen

Suzanne, Many Many Thanks for the Scrivener information-just what i needed with the added bonus of her nephew John White.Yes,you are correct, it was a second marriage. A very grateful, Thelma, OZ..

Hi Karen 1901: Wilter Osborne abt 1858 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Head Smethwick Staffordshire (name is Walter on image) Lodia Osborne abt 1861 Bham, Warwickshire, England Wife Smethwick Staffordshire (name is Lydia on image) Fred Osborne abt 1883 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Son Smethwick Staffordshire Martha Osborne abt 1887 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Daughter Smethwick Staffordshire Annie H Osborne abt 1889 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Daughter Smethwick Staffordshire Ernest Osborne abt 1885 Smethwick, Staffordshire, England Nephew Smethwick Staffordshire Martha Osborne abt 1826 Ludlow, Herefordshire, England Mother Smethwick Staffordshire Ernest looks like he may be a printer (hard to read) Suzanne

Hi Suzanne, thanks for the offer, can you look up the rest of the family that Ernest may be living with in 1901 1901 census Ernest Osborne abt 1885 Smethwick, Staffordshire, Nephew. Smethwick, Staffs many thanks regards Karen

Hi Thelma Sarah and William in Dunstable (second Wife?) 1851: Church Green, Dunstable, Beds. William Scrivner abt 1811 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Head Dunstable Bedfordshire Sarah Scrivner abt 1803 Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire, England Wife Dunstable Bedfordshire Thomas Scrivner abt 1839 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Son Dunstable Bedfordshire Ann Scrivner abt 1842 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Dunstable Bedfordshire John White abt 1833 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Nephew Dunstable Bedfordshire Joseph Impey abt 1841 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Son-in-law Dunstable Bedfordshire William is an Agri Labourer and Sarah a straw bonnet maker. Thomas is an errand boy and Joseph is a scholar (ovbiously step son). John is unmarried and a straw plait Gophaier? (transcribed as it looks to me?) Suzanne

Suzanne, Thank you for your kind offer. May i please request a look up from 1851 Census for a Sarah/Maria SCRIVENER aged about 48yrs., born Aspley Guise Bedfordshire.Married William SCRIVENER 12th Feb.1849 Wesylian Chapel Dunstable Bedfordshire. Thelma, OZ..

1901: Rose Cottage, Treville Street, Putney, London Charles Norris abt 1859 Rockhampton, Surrey, England Head Putney London Sarah Norris abt 1861 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Putney London Charles T Norris abt 1888 Morden, Surrey, England Son Putney London George Norris abt 1891 Rockhampton, Surrey, England Son Putney London Charles Senior is a domestic gardener. Source information: RG13/491 Folio: 112 Page: 3 1891: Rose Cottage, Teville Street, Putney, London Charles Nerris abt 1859 Rockhampton, Surrey, England Head Putney London Sarah Nerris abt 1861 Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Putney London Charles T Nerris abt 1888 Morden, Surrey, England Son Putney London George Nerris abt 1890 Rockhampton, Surrey, England Son Putney London Charles senior is a domestic gardener/servant. Source information: RG12/453 Folio: 152 Page: 1 1881: 1 Elizabeth Place, Putney, London, England William Norris abt 1824 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England Head Elizabeth L. Norris abt 1824 Brentwood, Essex, England Wife Charles Norris abt 1859 Roehampton, Surrey, England Son Thomas Norris abt 1866 Roehampton, Surrey, England Son William and Charles are Gardeners. Source information: RG11/0663 Folio: 87 Page: 16 1871: Elizabeth Place, Putney, Surrey. William Noris abt 1824 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England Head Putney Surrey Elizabeth Noris abt 1824 Brentwood, Essex, England Wife Putney Surrey Ellen Noris abt 1853 Rochampton, Surrey, England Daughter Putney Surrey Elizabeth Noris abt 1855 Rochampton, Surrey, England Daughter Putney Surrey Charles Noris abt 1859 Rochampton, Surrey, England Son Putney Surrey Henry Noris abt 1861 Rochampton, Surrey, England Son Putney Surrey Thomas Noris abt 1866 Rochampton, Surrey, England Son Putney Surrey Jesse Bowden abt 1847 Woly Waler, Hampshire, England Visitor Putney Surrey William is a Gardener. Source information: RG10/717 Folio: 72 Page: 13 1861: Cant see them in this year? 1851: Kensington Street, St George hanover Square, Middlesex William Norris abt 1824 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England Head St George Hanover Square Middlesex Elizabeth L Norris abt 1824 Brentwood, Essex, England Wife St George Hanover Square Middlesex William J Norris abt 1848 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England Son St George Hanover Square Middlesex Robert T Norris abt 1850 St Geo Han Sq, Middlesex, England Son St George Hanover Square Middlesex William is an Under Butler, Elizabeth is a seamstres. Source information: HO107/1477 Folio: 66 Page: 6 1881: Name: Sarah D Godsiff Age in 1881: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relationship to head-of-household: Servant Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Address: 33 Queens Rd Condition as to marriage: Unknown Occupation: Domestic Servant Source information: RG11/1911 Registration district: Yarmouth Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Southern Folio: 45 Page: 13 1871: 10 Woodger's Buildings, Nelson, Yarmouth, Norfolk. George Godsiff abt 1828 Rochester, Kent, England Head Nelson Norfolk Caroline Godsiff abt 1828 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Nelson Norfolk George Godsiff abt 1855 Poplar, Middlesex, England Son Nelson Norfolk Sarah Godsiff abt 1861 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Daughter Nelson Norfolk William Godsiff abt 1863 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Son Nelson Norfolk Henry Godsiff abt 1867 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Son Nelson Norfolk Ellen Godsiff abt 1868 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Daughter Nelson Norfolk George Senior is a Mariner, George junior is a Miller 1861: Preston Buildings, St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth Southern Caroline Godsiff abt 1828 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk Caroline Godsiff abt 1851 Repps, Middlesex, England Daughter Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk Rebecca Godsiff abt 1853 Repps, Middlesex, England Daughter Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk George Godsiff abt 1855 Repps, Middlesex, England Son Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk Mary An Godsiff abt 1859 Yarmouth Repps Daughter Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk Sarah An Godsiff abt 1860 Yarmouth Repps Daughter Great Yarmouth St Nicholas Norfolk Caroline is a mariner's wife (merchant service) 1851: George Robert Godriff abt 1828 Rochester, Kent, England Head Poplar Middlesex Caroline Goodriff abt 1828 Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Wife Poplar Middlesex Caroline M A Goodriff abt 1850 Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter Poplar Middlesex Sarah Ditcham abt 1798 Golstone, Suffolk, England Wifes Mother Poplar Middlesex George is a Mariner. Sarah is the wife of an 'officer in the Fri???leons? Source information: HO107/1556 Folio: 614 Page: 22

Thank you Suzanne that is them sorry didnt answer was doing a birth look up on trying to find board for somebody Thinking about it although I have it saved on Word as 1891 believe it was 1901 they were down as Murgrave Not sure where I got Sarah from will have to look at it in the morning !! off to bed now as have to be up in 3 1/2 hours Thank you again Deborah

Subject : The Norris Family 1901 Census living in Putney Hi Suzanne, you kindly helped out when Mad Alice (my old mate from 48 yrs ago!) requested some information on a Cock/s Family in Putney. Well thanks to the replies she passed on to me, I am now able to trace some of my Mothers long lost 2nd cousins whom she visited in 1945. I just need to confirm this family. They are George Norris b:abt 1859 Head Sarah Norris (nee Godsiff) b: abt 1861 wife, 2 children Charles & George. 2 are showing ages 13 & 10 yrs. If you can track them I would appreciate their address. It has taken me almost a month to put all the peices together to track this family. Thanks in anticipation It would be much appreciated. Ingrid

Hi Deborah.....Is this your family do you think? 1851: 15 Victoria terrace, Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire. William Macguire abt 1816 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Head Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Ann Macguire abt 1818 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Wife Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Edward Macguire abt 1841 Hem Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Emma Macguire abt 1843 Hem Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire William Macguire abt 1845 Hem Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Ann E Macguire abt 1847 Hem Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire William is a Boat Wright Man. 1861: Victoria Terrace, Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire. William Maguire abt 1817 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Head Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Ann Maguire abt 1819 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Wife Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Edward Maguire abt 1841 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire William Maguire abt 1845 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Eliza Maguire abt 1847 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire >>>George Maguire abt 1853 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire John Maguire abt 1855 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Stephen Maguire abt 1857 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Benjamin Maguire abt 1859 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Alice Maguire abt 1861 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire William Senior and junior are both Boatwrights, Edward is a Coachpainter. 1871: Victoria Terrace, Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire. William Maguire abt 1817 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Head Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Ann Maguire abt 1819 St Ives, Huntingdonshire, England Wife Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire >>>George Maguire abt 1853 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire John Maguire abt 1855 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Stephen Maguire abt 1857 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Benjamin Maguire abt 1859 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Alice Maguire abt 1861 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Daughter Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire Charles Maguire abt 1866 Hemingford Grey, Huntingdonshire, England Son Hemingford Grey Huntingdonshire William is a Boatwright. George and John are Cabinet Maker apprentices. Stephen is a boatwright.

Thanks for your time Suzanne, will have to find him on the 1841. nite trish xx

Hi Trish, yes that is why I laid them out as they appeared on the census. Not very helpful of them was it. Hopefully they will be more accomodating in the 1841 (unfortunately I dont have access to that at the moment) Suzanne

Hi Deborah I think I may have found the family but the head is born St Ives (Huntingdon?) following the family there is a George born to the family in 1853. I tried to find YOUR George in 1891 under the name Murgrave as you suggested to cross reference but couldnt find him under that name in 1891? I dont want to give you the wrong details as there are a lot of families with variation on the name. Can you confirm again your George's findings so that I can track him backwards please. Suzanne Update: I will post the family I THINK is your further down the thread.

Hi Suzanne, Me again, silly me,in my excitement thought Amy was Williams mother,she is his grandmother. Wonder who is parents are then? Thanks trish xx

Hi Suzanne, Yes it must be the right family,William in 1861 was living in West St,St Decumans,with his family,must have been a big house,more than likely though families used to live practically next door to one another. So from what I can gather Amy was his mothers name,wow,so much info you have given me, many many thanks, much appreciated. trish xx

Hello Suzanne if you get time could you please look up William Macquire in 1851/61 and 71 he was born c1817 in St Ives Cambs and his wife was called Ann They were my ggggrandparents They had a daughter Sarah in c1841 and my gggrandfather George in 1852 george 1852 is mistranscribed in 1891 as Murgrave Thank you Deborah

Hi Trish, happy to help: The only one I could find in the right area with the right name and general age is the following: 1851: West(or) Street, St Decumans, Watchet, Somerset. Amy Webber abt 1800 Watchet, Somerset, England Head St Decumans Somerset Isaac Webber abt 1819 Watchet, Somerset, England Son St Decumans Somerset Francis Webber abt 1829 Watchet, Somerset, England Son St Decumans Somerset Matilda Webber abt 1833 Watchet, Somerset, England Daughter St Decumans Somerset Mariana Webber abt 1836 Watchet, Somerset, England Daughter St Decumans Somerset James Webber abt 1813 Brunter, Somerset, England Son St Decumans Somerset Robt Webber abt 1838 Watchet, Somerset, England Grandson St Decumans Somerset >>>>William Webber abt 1836 Watchet, Somerset, England Grandson St Decumans Somerset Amelia Webber abt 1843 Watchet, Somerset, England Granddaughter St Decumans Somerset Gilbert Webber abt 1846 Watchet, Somerset, England Grandson St Decumans Somerset Dianna Webber abt 1849 Watchet, Somerset, England Granddaughter St Decumans Somerset Francis Webber abt 1851 Watchet, Somerset, England Grandson St Decumans Somerset Sarah Webber abt 1813 Watchet, Somerset, England Granddaughter St Decumans Somerset They are on the census in the order above. Amy is Widowed. James and Sarah are down as Married and all the others are single. (Sarah is actually a daughter in law on image - presume James and Sarah are a couple although not next to each other on census?). Professions: Issac and James are Labourers. Francis senior is a Mariner. Matilda and Marianne are washer women. Robert and William are Farm Labourers. Amelia is a Paper Maker assistant. Sarah's occupation says Lodger...lol. Census info: Name: William Webber Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Watchet, Somerset, England Civil parish: St Decumans Town: Watchet County/Island: Somerset Country: England Source information: HO107/1920 Registration district: Williton Sub-registration district: Minehead Folio: 439 Page: 23 Household schedule number: 84 Hope this is the right one. Suzanne X

Hi Suzanne, Thanks for the offer. Could you look-up on the 1851 a William Webber b1833. Watchet/Williton Somerset. I have in on the 1861 married to Mary Ann. I am hoping he will be home with his parents. His age then should be listed as 18. regards trish

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