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I'm actually wondering whether they die early - I cant find Matilda who married Henry Osborne ' and I cant find Rosanna anywhere in a census after 1851 - can't be that many Rosanna's b 1825 in Bethnal Green. Peter

I've tried to find her in 1871, but no luck. Suppose a trawl through marriage index is next step?

Looks a bit late -Rosanna would be 42 -will try and find her in 81 to check on age - unless someonre gets her in 71 (grin) Peter

Possible marriage? CROOK, William 1867 September Marriages Shoreditch London Middlesex Harvey, James 1867 September Marriages Shoreditch London Middlesex Peters, Elizabeth 1867 September Marriages Shoreditch London Middlesex Peters, Rosina 1867 September Marriages Shoreditch London Middlesex

Must have run in the family - just look for his father John Peters onthe Old Baily site 'it must have fallen off the back of a cart, m'lud!!!!!' Nothing surprises me with this lot!! .....but the wine certainly appeals more! Think I'll give up for tonight - have been searching for Rosanna with no luck (so far) Peter

Don't know if you will want to claim George (Shoreditch/Bethnal Green) 1871 he's back in prison again! George Peters abt 1834 London, Middlesex, England Convict Gillingham Kent - married, occupation -dealer and shoe maker. (Dealer in what I wonder!) His wife in 1871 (image shows her as widow - hhmm) Alice Peters abt 1863 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter Mile End Old Town London Jane Peters abt 1866 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter >> Mary Ann Peters abt 1835 Stepney, Middlesex, England Head Matilda Peters abt 1865 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Daughter (choice of name - after a sister perhaps?)

Same George in 1861? >>George Peters abt 1833 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Head Bethnal Green Middlesex (shoe maker) George Peters abt 1860 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Mary Ann Peters abt 1834 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Wife There is another George in Brighton, same age, place of birth given as Middlesex (helpful) - he was in Brighton in 1851 as well.

Could this be your George in 1851. Can't see any others born Shoreditch (took this area from Roseanna's birth district) Name: George Peters Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Prisoner Gender: Male Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Clerkenwell Ecclesiatical parish: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: HO107/1517 Registration district: Clerkenwell Sub-registration district: Amwell ED, institution, or vessel: House of Correction Cold Bath Fields Folio: 505 Page: 19

Thanks The squiggle is Gt Cambridge St. Just round the corner from the previous.... His first wife's mother is another enigma - Sarah and seems to have married Isaac Butterworth some time before 1792 - lots of children including Rosanna who married John Peters in 1819 In 1851 he has his m-i-l with him, her name appears to be Sarah Thacker although another cert indicates that it may have, at some time, been Staters (very hard to read). BMD here I come (it's either that or a wine festival on Saturday!!!). Also have to find George!! Peter

Peter, Not sure I would want to buy that marriage certificate without finding the other names first. Have not found the girls so far on 1861. Off to bed so hope someone else has more luck on 1861. Maureen

...oh goody!! Another marriage cert to buy for the collection! Peter

Peter, The 1851 census shows at household schedule 157 the following family, which has the same house number 3 as schedule 158, but the enumerator seems to have made a bit of a hash of the house numbers on this page as it starts with 104 - sorry but can not make out the name of the street Banks Reynolds abt 1799 Stanford, Norfolk, England Head Francis Reynolds abt 1839 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Mary Reynolds abt 1803 Hailey, Oxfordshire, England Wife Mary Reynolds abt 1836 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Strange but found a marriage and no other names are listed. Name: Peters, Caroline Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1859 District: Bethnal Green County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 747 Maureen

Certaily looks like them, doesn't it. May I ask who else is in the household? Thanks - now for 61 !!! Peter

Peter, Not sure if this helps or not but could be the sisters in 1851 Name: Rosiana Peters Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1825 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiatical parish: Haggerstone East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: HO107/1538 Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 19 Page: 30 Household schedule number: 158 GSU Number: 174768 Caroline Peters abt 1827 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Lodger Occupation for both girls is milliner Maureen

Have the birth of Rosanna PETERS(IGI) as 22 5 1824 but I need to know who she is with in later life - I know I found her once before and discarded her - and I can't find the notes. Does she show up in 1851 or later (no marriage that I can see on BMD)?? Finding this has enabled me to find John's first wife Rosanna Butterworth, and her parents Isaac and Sarah. I have Sarah as his m-i-l on a later census as Sarah Thacker so it all starts to tie in - but I have to find the daughter Rosanna (and Caroline....Matilda seems to have married Henry Osborne in Dec 1845) Another good day - that's two major road blocks down this year!! Peter

Bingo Ribbon manufacturer/fringe manufacturer are the same thing and the area is right. No wife suggests he is a widower. Ages of othres mean they had left home by 1851. Some of the namestun up in the next generation Alfred - I'll think about - has his mother just died in the workhouse/hospital??? Lots more rellies to track.. Any sign of a Harriet Brown?? Thanks again Peter

Hi Peter, Not sure if this helps but I checked the John Peters age 40 in the London Index and these are the only two possibles but no son Alfred with them. There is an Alfred on the index aged 5 years but he is in Bethnal Green Workhouse so I guess this isn't him! HO107/705 fo 49 St. Leonard, Shoreditch, part of Haggerstone West District Kent Street, Weymouth Terrace John Peters, 40, Fringem. Y Rosanna Peters, 15, Fringem, Y Caroline Peters, 13, Fringem. Y Matilda Peters, 11, Fringem. Y George Peters, 10, Y HO107/711 fo 19 Tower Hamlets, Mile End New Town (pt of) King Edward Street John Peters, 40, Silk Weaver I, Y Elizabeth Peters, 40, Silk Weaver, Y Elizabeth Peters, 15, Silk Weaver, Y John Peters, 13, Y James Peters, 11, Y Sarah Peters, 2, Y Sarah Clark, 25, F.S. Y Good luck with your search. Regards Barbara

John Peters son of John Peters b abt 1800 in Bethnal Green, occ Ribbon Manufacturer. Married to ?? and son Alfred b 1834 'Middlesex' Presume wife died between 1834 and 1841 John remarried Sep Q 1842 to Harriet BROWN b c 1810 Poplar dau of Michael Brown(sailor) Marriage was in Kensington District. 1844 they were living in Haggerstine I would like to find either or both of them in 1841 (could Alfred be of help?).....or is this just beyond everone? Peter

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