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I need some help to put this lot together and I'm hoping some one can help me. What I know : 1861- Paddington ELizabeth Budd 1801 Reigate Head Louisa Starring ( Stanning) 1848 Kenninton Grand-daughter Alexander Thorne 1824 Chelsea Son-in-LAw Emma Thorne 1831 Pimlico Daughter In 1871 Louisa Stanning is married Frederick Faulkner in lambeth. Living with Elizabeth Hanning ( Stanning ) 1801 Lambeth. ( I know about the Faulkners from here on ) I THINK the Elizabeth from 1861 is the same Elizabeth in 1871. I also have an 1875 DC for Elizabeth Stanning ( 75 ) signed by E THORNE - Daughter. and from Louisas MC to Frederick I know her father is George Stanning. I'm having trouble connecting these bits of information together. So could do with a bit of help PLEASE. Would like to find the ones from 1861 in 1851 and 1871............. and if any spots a birth or marriage that would be good as well ( I've looked for a birth for Louisa in 1848/49 using 1837online but nothing yet ) ESta

How they appear in 1861, just to add a bit of info Elizabeth Budd abt 1801 Reigate, Surrey, Head laundress Alexander Thorne abt 1824 Chelsea, Middlx, Son-in-law tailor Emma Thorne abt 1831 Pimlico, Middlesex, Daughter laundress Mary Banks abt 1844 Whitehaven, Cumberland,Servant Louisa Stanning abt 1848 Kennington, Surrey, Granddaughter scholar Have not found any of them 1851 yet!

Hi Esta In 1851 found an Elisabeth BUDD (with an S) at 59 Brudley Street, Paddington. She's on her own, widow, age 50, laundress, born Buckland, Surrey. Jill

Esta, Not sure if this will confuse but there is a Buckland not far from Reigate. 1851 Name: Elisabeth Budd Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Widow Gender: Female Where born: Buckland, Surrey, England Civil parish: Paddington Ecclesiatical parish: Trinity County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Source information: HO107/1466 Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Folio: 272 Page: 45 Household schedule number: 185 GSU Number: 87787 Maureen

Perhaps this is a piece of the puzzle: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles ALEXANDER THORNE Father: JEREMIAH THORNE Spouse: EMMA JANE STANING Marriage: 17 APR 1859 Saint James, Paddington, London, England nell

According to IGI, Emma Jane's father was John Stanning.

Thank you all for your help - it's appreciated - I've been stuck with this 'puzzle' for a while so I'm hoping new eyes and ideas might crack it ! I'm not sure where BUDD has come from as I was thinking these 2 Elizabeths were the same person......... Nell the IGI info is brillient - might be able to get MC from that. Her father being John is a V good sign as I think Elizabeth B.1801 was indeed married to John Stanning ( But no real proof !) Really wish I could find them in 1851 / 71 though.

ooooo...........Just realised that : In 1861 Emma Thorne is Louisa Stannings Aunt ! I know Louisas Father was George Stanning who now has a sister called Emma...............Is that right ??

Are you sure Emma is Louisa's aunt and not her mother (Louisa being born illegitimately before the marriage to Mr Thorne?) Or have you got Louisa's father George from her marriage cert? Where is George? What a family!!! nell

George in 1851? George Staning Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Relation: Lodger Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Paddington Ecclesiatical parish: St John County/Island: Middlesex Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St John Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 15 HO107/1467 Folio: 463 Page: 40 He's unmarried and a coach driver. nell

What A family is right ..........I just can't seem to make it all fit !! Louisa married Frederick Faulkner in 1868 (Lambeth ) - I have the MC which says her father was George Stanning - Dec'd....... He's another one I wish I could find in 1851 !!..........This is why I was trying to find Louisa BC to get both parents names......ARGHHHHHH.

Though George says he is born Paddington, perhaps this is his birth: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 GEORGE FRANCIS STANNING Birth: 26 JAN 1819 Christening: 30 MAY 1819 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England Parents: Father: JOHN STANNING Family Mother: ELIZABETH nell

Yep .......I found that 1851 for George aswell..........but how do I make it fit ?!! I also believe I have him in 1861 with a possible 2nd wife !!...........Based on age difference ....ARGGGHHHH. George F Stanning abt 1860 Kensington, Middlesex, England Son Kensington St Mary Abbott Middlesex George Fr Stanning abt 1819 London City, Middlesex, England Head Kensington St Mary Abbott Middlesex John F Stanning abt 1858 London St Pancras, Middlesex, England Son Kensington St Mary Abbott Middlesex Lucy A Stanning abt 1838 London St Pancras, Middlesex, England Wife Kensington St Mary Abbott Middlesex Mary E Stanning abt 1860 Kensington, Middlesex, England Daughter Kensington St Mary Abbott Middlesex All I want to do is make it fit a little then work out what certs I need to send for without wasting a fortune............

This confusion all started when I sent for Louisa MC as I believed her father was JOHN STANNING b. 1820 ish - Surrey.. When it arrived saying George was her father ( after screaming ) I can only assume George is Johns Brother ! ************************* As I said before I have George in 1861 married to Lucy. Lucy remarries in 1867 which would fit with Geroge being Dec'd in 1868 when Louisa Married. I have also found a possible first marriage for George in 1843 ( with only 1 female name transcribed ) . Which would fit with Louisas DOB as it being her father. But without Loiuisa BC for Mothers name how can I link them together.........ARGGGHHHHHH...

Esta Just to confuse things even more, from the IGI IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Pedigree -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOUISA JANE STENNING Female Event(s): Birth: 24 DEC 1855 Christening: 20 JAN 1856 Saint Martin In The Fields, Westminster, London, England Parents: Father: GEORGE STENNING Family Mother: CHARLOTTE

And whose wife is this in 1851, living all by herself at 29 Tavistock Place, St Pancras? HO 107/1494 750 p.22 Mary Stanning wife mar 37 Occupation: In charge of house [!] born Cliffs End Kent nell

Or this lost orphan Name: Sophia Stanning Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Pupil Where born: London, England HO107/1505 Folio: 688 Page: 19 Civil parish: Hackney Ecclesiatical parish: Hackney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Hackney Sub-regi district: Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: London Orphan Asylum

Just to say Thanks Nell for adding more pieces to my puzzle.........lol Going to sit down and have a good think - and possibly another go at 51/71........ Esta x