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Hi there Is there anyone who can help me? I have conflicting results on census returns. I am looking for a birth for either/all of the following names....James Randolph/Randolph/Mawson..the surname is Attack although on 1 census return it is spelled Attick..Birth year between 1853 - 1855 and the area is Yorkshire, Mirfield is noted on the census returns...These names appear on census returns but not all together although the parents James and Hannah are the same. I cannot find anything on Ancestry or BMD if anyone can help I would be really gratefull. Many thanks Pam

There is this birth on Ancestry:- Name: Attack, Randolph Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1852 District: Dewsbury County: West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9b Page: 474 Mirfield is in the Dewsbury registration district. Kath. x

Hi kath & ty for the reply. Is there any records of the other names as I don't know if they are all the same person or 3 brothers. Many thanks again, very much appreciated. Pam

Randolph and Mawson appear together on the 1871 census so I would imagine they are two separate brothers. James isn't there. I'll go and have a look at image on Ancestry again. Kath. x

Thanks kath you are a great help I really appreciate it. Pam

I don't know if you have access to Ancestry, but if not I could send you the 1871 image if you send me your email address. On the 1871 living in Sowerby are:- James and Hannah - the parents. with them are:- Selina - daughter Randolph - son Mawson - son Bertram - son. Kath. x

This is Bertram's birth reference from 1837online:- Bertram Attack March qtr. 1857, Dewsbury, 9b, 470 Kath. x

Hi Kath yes I have that information here. I don't know if 'Mawson' was unreadable on the census forms as i cannot find any record of him at all. James Randolph I have a marriage cert for Randolph appears on the 1881 census and Mawson appears on the 1861 census. James Randolph appears on later census' I can't get the birth info to tally. Thanks again for trying though, very helpful. Pam

Hi again Kath.....thanks for the info on bertram I didn't have that! Pam

Have found Mawson's birth on 1837online:- December qtr. 1854, Dewsbury, 9b, 422 The page number is not very clear, but you could still order the certificate and say the page number is unclear. Kath. x

Oh Kath..ty so much I was beginning tho think Mawson didn't exsist! My info is.... 1871 census Randolph born abt 1853 1881 census James R b abt 1854 1861 census Mawson/ b abt 1854 and Randolph b abt 1853. surname spelt Attick Do you think from this Randolph and James R are the same person? and Mawson could have been a child fatality? Thanks again. Pamx

Mawson is alive and kicking on the 1901 census, married with a family. The birth reference for Randolph only gives the one name - Randolph Attack and not James Randolph Attack. Where were they living in 1861, as I couldn't find them. Kath. x

Kath, Thanks again! I have looked for Mawson all over and couldn't find him.....On the 1861 census the surname is spelt 'Attick' and not 'Attack' I came across it accidentally they were living in sowerby, Yorkshire. Pam x

Are you sure James R. Attack on the 1881 census is from the same family, or could he be a cousin or other relation? Kath. x

On James Randolph's marriage cert to frances Nield in 1880 his father is named as James and he was a Railway Engine driver

On James Randolph's marriage cert to frances Nield in 1880 his father is named as James and he was a Railway Engine driver

In that case I'm not sure. I think I would assume that James Randolph and Randolph are one and the same. Perhaps he just fancied being called after his dad so added the name himself. The only other thing is to try and find another birth of a James Randolph just to be sure. I'm off to bed now, so good luck and I hope you get it sorted. Kath. x

Thanks for your help Kath, I think we may have clarified it, because I couldn't find Mawson I was getting all confused. You have helped a lot ty very much.....take & goodnight Pamx