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Help with census -Ellen Ball Leicester 1891
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:49 |
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Thank you both Will lookout for both Ward, Ball and Pegg while I am researching this lot! Tink you are right , need to order certificates shall I do that now - or write Christmas cards? OK certificate wins. My have to continue with a bit more research to see if I need to more than one nearly a whole week to Christmas after all.... Alice |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:40 |
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Best bet would be to buy Charles' birth cert, that will definitely tell you who his mother was and her maiden name. It's very possible that that 1873 marriage is the right one, but I wouldn't buy it until after you've bought the birth cert. Have no idea where Ellen Ball comes into it! On the 1871 I gave you, they are living next to a Ball family, but names are Thomas and Emma Ball. |
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Esta | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:35 |
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Alice.......You're right you should be doing your cards.........and can you do mine aswell.....!! Hope you sort her out soon Esta |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:35 |
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Chloe and Esta You are both stars! I thought I was going to have real probs with this lot. Don't know her maiden name esta but that looks like a strong possibility - Rosannah is not a common name is it? Trying to trace further back so I can give family trees to rellies at christmas - one or two may like it, others (like my children) will have to be polite! |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:31 |
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Esta Yes that is his family and I think you are right. I guess he remarried in Leicestershire though he obviously went to Kent. At least mother/father in law are the right sort of age here. Really stuck as how to trace back further on Rosannahs side though as I think she was the mother of direct ancestor ( charles Cherry) What a thing to be doing on a Sunday afternoon when I should be writing out christmas cards! Alice |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:30 |
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Is this Rosanna on 1871? Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Alfred Herbert 18 Leicestershire, England Apprentice St Margaret Leicestershire William Marston 16 Leicestershire, England Apprentice St Margaret Leicestershire John Pegg 68 Leicestershire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire Rosanna Pegg 24 Leicestershire, England Daughter St Margaret Leicestershire Sarah Pegg 58 Leicestershire, England Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Pegg 18 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire No Ellen for mum.... the plot thickens |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:28 |
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Is this their marriage? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page ------------------------------ Marriages Mar 1873 ---------------------------- PEGG Ros_anna Leicester 7a 253 CHERRY Henry Edward Leicester 7a 253 Jordan John Leicester 7a 253 Waterfield Jane Leicester 7a 253 |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:24 |
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What was Rosannah's maiden name? |
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Esta | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:20 |
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Alice I really don't want to add to your confusion but as this is obviously hanry's 2nd marraige - here he is in 1871 as a widow.....I think Arthur Cherry 16 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Eliza Cherry 14 Leicestershire, England Daughter St Margaret Leicestershire George Cherry 10 Kent, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Henery Cherry 45 Leicestershire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire Nellie Cherry 7 Kent, England Daughter St Margaret Leicestershire William Cherry 12 Kent, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire John Dann 71 Leicestershire, England Father-in-law St Margaret Leicestershire Mary Dann 72 Leicestershire, England Mother-in-law St Margaret Leicestershire Esta |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:14 |
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I wa hoping she may be the mother, then I would know Rosannahs Maiden name, but i think it unlikely because of ages. Henry Cherry (Rosannahs husband ) was older than her and so I don't think it was his mother either. Also Cherry was Rosannahs married name. I am gettiing more muddled the more I think about it! Alice |
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Esta | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:11 |
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could Ellen BAll be Rosannah Cherrys mother-in-law ! |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:06 |
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Beat me to it Chloe! looking at 1881 image for Rosannah there is a ward family 2 doors down with a William Cherry as a boarder. Sure I have seen other Wards too. So I wonder what the relationship was - Can't get my head round it this afternoon! Alice |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 16:02 |
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It could be 54 I'm useless at working it out, as you say a bit young to have a baby. Will try to trace her backwards and forwards to see if I can find her on another census. Alice |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:59 |
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1881 possible match: Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Ellen Ball abt 1830 Melbourne, Derbyshire, England Wife Derby St Peter Henry Ball abt 1836 C Donington, Leicestershire, England Head Derby St Peter Eliza C. Ward abt 1866 Duffield, Derbyshire, England Niece Derby St Peter William Whittaker abt 1868 Loughbro, Leicestershire, England Nephew Derby St Peter |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:57 |
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Looks like 54 to me. Again 11 is young to have a baby, but not impossible. |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:56 |
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I have image and it could be 32 or 34 but the 3 is clear. Alice |
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McDitzy | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:54 |
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Could 36 be a mistranscription or are you looking at the image? |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:52 |
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I have Rosannah Cherry aged 43 and head. She was married to Henry but is now widowed. Looking at previous images she was probably his second wife as he had children who were probably too old to be hers. Living in the same household is Ellen Ball aged 32 or 34 relationship 'mother' but to who? Can't be Rosannas mother as she is too old. Hope she might be a clue to get me further back. Family all born and living in Leicestershire. Can anyone help? Alice |
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Mad Alice | Report | 19 Dec 2004 15:52 |
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I am trying to get back further with the Cherry family and have them on the 1891 census see below. |
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