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Peoples you have all been unbelievably kind - the certificate has been sent for hopefully by the end of next week I shall know the parentage of Amos Proctor Catlin I am indebted to you all Regards Teresa

At the time I did it I was hooked on Ware. Fun.isn't it!

Tricia I just searched for 4 year olds born Hoddesdon I also found this marriage on freebmd Marriages Mar 1890 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CATLIN Ellen Ware 3a 363 Coleman Philip Ware 3a 363 The names of the people he is with on 1901 are Phillip and Ellen ... Anna :-)

Brilliant, Anna. I searched for every Amos - never thoght of Ames! That surname on the image could easily be Catlin. There's even a 'dot' there. Still doesn't give parents so it's back to the certificate,I think. Tricia

Hi Teresa I have found the George Catlin on 1901 who is a 15 yr old son in 1881. He appears to be married with children. If you would like details please let me know. Chrissie

I think this is the one from the 1901 site,but on ancestry hes transcribed as the following Ames Calhou 4 Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire, England Nephew Hoddesdon Hertfordshire on the actual image,the first name looks like Amos and surname something like Callin? hes with a family called Coleman Anna :-)

Sorry I have you all curious now don't I lol. The family I mentioned as a possible connection from 1881 is also on 1891 but I can find none of them on 1901 either. And I can seem to find noone who is with Amos on the decoder --- grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its soo irritating lol It's truly an enigma Lets hope a kind soul has some spare credit for me. if I grovel enough lol Teresa

1901 decoder gives: Forename(s) Lastname Page ID Person ID Age PRO Age Year Born Where Born Census Place Census County Occupation Piece (RG13/) Folio Amos CALLIN 8DB5C343C48AA0BC 0DE613414E2B0766 4 4 1897 Herts Hoddesden Hoddesdon Urban Hertford N/A N/A Beth

No, you don't have to wait. You really need someone to check Amos Callin on 1901. Ancestry have let us down!

There is this family on 1881 -- given the birth place and names they could be related I suppose. George CATLIN Head M Male 50 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Plasterers Lab Caroline CATLIN Wife M Female 42 Stortford, Hertford, England George CATLIN Son U Male 15 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Plasterers Lab Ellen CATLIN Daur Female 13 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Scholar Robert T. CATLIN Son Male 10 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Scholar Sarah M. CATLIN Daur Female 7 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Scholar Charles F. CATLIN Son Male 5 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England Scholar Amos CATLIN Son Male 3 Hoddesdon, Hertford, England I am just going to wait on the cert - gosh an heres me so lacking in patience lol Teresa

All the information I have given is taken from the original image on 1901 ancestry Ha, Elizabeth - I thought you meant on the census. Didn't check the birth record. Reckon you have found him. Where on earth is he in 1901 ?? Teresa. I am not getting a result for Amos Callin on 1901

Patricia, I suspect it was mistranscribed and the 't' was read as another 'l' giving a surname Callin instead of Catlin. Needs to be checked against birth cert to see if other details correct. Beth :)

I appreciate all that folks - I had noticed the Amos Callin on the decoder but cannot get a return on him on ancestry - did you all get the info on a decoder or ancestry Does anyone have spare credit to access the original document as I have no credits and no need to buy even the minimum amount Regards a very grateful Teresa

Blimey, Elizabeth, you're clever - comes up with nothing for me! The only result on 1901 for Catlin with Ware is Edward Catlin Head 45 Bricklayer born Holloway London Susan Catlin Wife 37 born Ware living 6,Whellel Road Islington and the only Amos Catlin showing up in Herts is Amos Catlin Head Single 42 Jobbing gardener born Broxbourne Eliza Catlin Sister age 52 born Broxbourne living Spital Brook Broxbourne. I've looked at every Amos born in Herts and still can't find him. Any more clues? Tricia

Oooh look: Ware Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts **************Hoddesdon************; Stanstead; Standon; Ware GRO volumes : VI (1837-51); 3a (1852-1930). Broxbourne, Eastwick, Gilston, Great Amwell, Great Munden, Hoddesdon, Hunsdon, Little Munden, Standon, Stanstead Abbots, Stanstead St. Margaret, Thundridge, Ware, Widford, Wormley. Registers now divided between Hertford & Ware and Broxbourne districts. nell

Found an Amos Proctor, right age. Name Age Where Born Administrative County Civil Parish Occupation Amos Proctor 4 Lancashire Preston Lancashire Preston BUT bearing in mind Hoddesdon's proximity to Ware, Amos' birth registration district, I think Beth might have found him. nell

Try a search for Amos Callin, comes up as Hoddesden? Does that make sense to you? Beth

I have an Amos Proctor Catlin - Freeb,d gives his birth as mar quarter 1897 born ware. I simply connot find him on 1901 not online or on the decoder can anyone help?? I shall be sending for the birth cert to find out parentage but in the mean time I thought not such a common name he should be easy to find WRONG. He has to be there I am sure teresa