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Geoff As I am not able to visit Lincs Archives for at least 6 weeks I suppose i could send for the marriage certificate and specify her Father's name on the request, that way if it is her I should have it before I visit and then be able to check on census' etc. Thanks again for your help and advice Barbara

Thelma I found that entry the other night after Helen in an earlier message informed me she had found a few deaths between 1841 and 1851. I don't know if it is her but because it is so close I decided to send for the certificate, if it isn't her the chances are it may be another of my family, Sarah seems to be a popular namein my family. Thanks for trying Barbara

Re: the Robert Dobby marriage Remember there were 4 men and 4 women on a page in those days, so RD is only a 1 in 4 chance.

Glanford Brigg is the west part of the extreme north of Lincs Glanford Brigg Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Barton; Brigg; Winterton GRO volumes : XIV (1837-51); 7a (1852-1930). Alkborough, Appleby, Ashby, Barnetby-le-Wold, Barrow upon Humber, Barton upon Humber, Bonby, Bottesford, Broughton, Brumby, Burringham, Burton upon Stather, Cadney cum Howsham, Cleatham, Croxton, Crosby, East Butterwick, East Halton, Elsham, Flixborough, Frodingham, Glanford Brigg, Goxhill, Gunnes, Hibaldstow, Holme, Horkstow, Kirton in Lindsey, Kirmington, Manton, Melton Ross, Messingham, Newstead, North Killingholme, Raventhorpe, Redbourne, Roxby cum Risby, Saxby, Scawby, Scunthorpe, South Ferriby, South Killingholme, Thornton Curtis, Twigmore, Ulceby, West Halton, Whitton, Winteringham, Winterton, Wootton, Worlaby, Wrawby, Yaddlethorpe

Ian Thanks for you time and ideas. I think you might have found something, I had Dobby down as a possible surname but hadn't located her on any census' under that name. I believe Glandford Brigg is near Gainsborough therefore in Lincs. I will look it up next time I'm at the Archives or may even just send for the certificate. Of course this means a whole lot of relatives to find... onward and upwards. Thanks so much Barbara

Gen Thanks for the idea, I went down this line I should have mentioned, never could find the marriage so I ordered the Birth Certificate of one of the children and specified the Mother's Maiden name but it wasn't Whiteley. Thanks for taking the time to look Barbara

Barbara I've found the marriage of a Sarah Whiteley registered in the June quarter of 1842 at Glanford Brigg, which seems to be in Lincolnshire. Robert Dobby appears to be the husband. This is on FreeBMD. Maybe it is your Sarah? Had looked for Sarah Whiteley on Australian Vital Records and there are a few, but mostly Australian born. One marriage in 1861 but not enough info to draw a line to your lady without seeing a certificate. Hope the Glanford Brigg marriage is your one! Ian

Could this be her in 1881,  John Wilson ATKINSON   Head   M   Male   60   Eagle, Lincoln, England   Farmer Machine Owner (10 Acres)      Sarah ATKINSON   Wife   M   Female   60   Besthorpe, Nottingham, England   Farmers Wife      Anne M. ATKINSON   Daugh   U   Female   24   London, London, Middlesex, England   Dressmaker      Wilson ATKINSON   Son   U   Male   17   North Scarle, Lincoln, England   Farmers Son     Source Information:   Census Place North Scarle, Lincoln, England   Family History Library Film   1341806   Public Records Office Reference   RG11   Piece / Folio   3373 / 77   Page Number   16 Gen

Ian I hadn't even thought about immigration, I didn't think my family did that, but maybe you didn't have to be rich in the 1840's to emigrate any idea of any websites i could try? Thanks for your suggestion Barbara

Robin Thanks for checking Barbara

Philip Is there earlier census' available for America or Canada for example 1851? Barbara

Barbara What about emigration - Australia, etc.? Ian

Hi Barbara I cannot find a burial in Notts that fits.

Hi Barbara, Have you tried loking on American & Canadian cens as she may have worked abroad & stayed there - it's just another posibility that needs to be checked out. Good hunting All the very best Phil (Weston-super-Mare)

Grant I don't know if she got married Barbara

Helen Thanks, I don't like admitting defeat, but it looks like i will have to. The 1851 Notts census is purely Surname indexed so you cannot search on it like you can 1881 and I have tried all possible variations of the name. I certainly didn't get that many Notts deaths when I tried the BMD website I found a few between 1841 and 1851 but no Notts ones. I will give it another try Thanks for your thoughts Barbara

Did she get married??

Barbara Sarah must have done something in 1851, either: a) been married and therefore be under another surname b) died c) been recorded under Whiteley which has been read wrongly - Miteley, Whitley, Whitney? I don't know which social sphere she moved in, but my female relatives were all off working as domestic servants by about 14 and they ended up miles away from where they had been christened. I don't know what the 1851 index is like, can you search just on Sarah, b. Besthorpe, Notts age 29/31 and see what you get? I've just looked on Ancestry BMD (not complete) and there are 29 Sarah Whiteley deaths between 1837-1851, and 21 marriages. Some of them are in Notts, but as I say, she could have married or died anywhere. Helen

I'm not sure if I have asked help for Sarah whiteley before, i think i have checked everything but am open to any ideas that you can put forward of where to try next. I have Sarah Whiteley born 1820 born Besthorpe,Notts Baptised North Scarle Lincoln. Father William Whiteley she is living with parents in 1841 but not in 1851. I have checked Lincs & Notts Census from 1851 onwards for her. I have managed to get all the census' for her siblings but she is not there. I have searched Parish Records and visited North Scarle Church for her Death/marriage. Cannot find either on BMD. I have looked for marriage on GRO, where next? or do I give up on this one? Have I missed somewhere? Barbara